Posts by Doltologist

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HELP - A Guide to Fade

by cognitivedizzy in

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hey everybody, been here lurking for years now... i tired of all the gb 2.0 shit and need to fade successfullydo we have a guide, i am very tempted to go out with a bang, but i want my wife with me, she aint a strong witness and would happily trust me ... i love her a lot.

status as of now,,, read coc isocf, been through jw facts and am convinced this religion is bs, also a ms now :( damn.

Doltologist

Oh, ffs, is this what jovie world does to people? This is ridiculous. You poor people.

I don't know if anyone has tried this. It does take effort and practice but it does work.

One of the reasons why people can't solve problems is that they tend to get too emotional and not logical enough. Consequently, all too often, the solution tends not to solve the issue. Also, they can't see the wood for the trees. Things just go round and round in their heads and, with each circuit, they just get bigger and bigger and more problematic until the problem is just too large to even contemplate, let alone solve.

Type the term 'Mind Map' into Google and read. Mind mapping is a way of organising and visualising the issues surrounding a problem in a clear and coherent way.

By constructing a mind map, a solution should naturally fall out.

You may not like the solution but, if it falls out with the minimum of effort, it's probably the right one.

I hope that this helps you as much as it has helped me.

If anyone wants any help with this method, just PM me. I'll be happy to do what I can.

The curious case of the Nepal coffee morning, Red Kites, Arlo Guthrie, life in the boonies and god

by Doltologist in

it's a beautiful morning here so instead of driving to the local shops, i decided to walk.. on the way, i was treated to an aerial and vocal display by a pair of red kites.

what magnificent birds they are.

so graceful, so elegant.. i passed by the local methodist church hall where a coffee morning to raise funds for nepal was being held.

Doltologist

It's a beautiful morning here so instead of driving to the local shops, I decided to walk.

On the way, I was treated to an aerial and vocal display by a pair of Red Kites. What magnificent birds they are. So graceful, so elegant.

I passed by the local Methodist church hall where a coffee morning to raise funds for Nepal was being held. I fancied a coffee and also wanted to do my bit for the Nepal disaster. I've given several times before but a bit more always helps.

I'd just got my coffee an a couple of biscuits when the local vicar introduced himself. 'I haven't seen you before, are you new to the village?' he says. 'No', I said, 'I've lived here for a few years.' 'Are you a member of another congregation?' he said. 'No', I said, 'I'm an atheist'.

I don't know how many of you have listened to Arlo Guthrie's Alice's Restaurant but there's a part where Arlo tells people that he was put in jail for littering and he says 'And they all moved away'. Well, I felt like Arlo Guthrie. Those around me went completely silent. That's the problem with 'life' out here in the boonies.

He asked my why I was an atheist and then proceeded to go on and on and on about god's magnificence, yada, yada.

Finally, I was able to mention Dawkins, Hitchins, Krauss and Carrier.

Mistake, big mistake.

He said 'I think it's best you leave'. 'Why?' I said, taken completely aback. 'I think that it would be best'.

I could have understood it had I been disrespectful or loud or derogatory but I wasn't. I was politeness itself.

And that, folks, is why we need places like this.

That's one thing that I do like about jovies. They are always willing to get into a verbal fight over god. OK, they are not much good at it but at least the ones I've met will stand up to the plate and go at it toe to toe.

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The Case for Theism

by FusionTheism in

"theism" here means "belief in a god" or "the worldview that an intelligent designer created the universe and life.

" ("god" here means a being with a mind who initiated and/or wound-up the universe, and designed life on earth)the most common claim that i see atheists making on twitter, is that "no evidence" exists in support of belief in a god.this post will remove any excuse atheists have for claiming "no evidence exists" in support of an initiator.

atheists can still reject this evidence as "weak," but they cannot truthfully say it does not exist.now, it is true that we do not have "observable, repeatable, falsifiable, empirical, scientific" evidence conclusively proving that an initiator exists, but we do have many lines of philisophical, experiential, and logical evidence.and... here... we... go:1:) many leading scientists, including stephen hawking, say that the space-time-matter universe had a beginning at the singularity/big bang.

Doltologist

Ruby456

Doltologist: with that interesting statement and no movement through time, the concept of an un-created creator becomes a possibility.

And so does the case for a universe without a creator.

MIT, last year performed an experiment whereby all the matter in a largevessel was pumped out. The vessel is surrounded by 18 inch thick aluminium to ensure that cosmic rays and the like are excluded. The process took a week (approx.) after which elemental particles were seen to be spontaneously created within the vessel. Investigation determined that the particles were created in particle/anti-particle pairs which self destructed by recombining.

The process did not compromise any known physical laws eg. conservation of mass and energy since the matter created consists of particle/anti-particle pairs.

It is this process that the press term 'the free lunch' and the 'something from nothing'.

Does this mean that the universe was created by this mechanism?

Maybe but there is an issue and it's a biggie. In the MIT experiment, the vessel exists in a pre-created universe. When our universe was created, there wasn't a pre-created universe.

What this seems to indicate is that there is some kind of natural unknown force/driver which will create matter where none exists.

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Is RIDICULE acceptable in online debating?

by nicolaou in

this topic was inspired by one of fhn's comments on the 'warzone' thread, so i'll just restate my post there .

.. "i've been wondering for a while now if ridicule really is an unacceptable feature in debate - it certainly isn't a valid form of argumentation.

the thing is, some individuals really do come out with the most laughable nonsense and parade it as a serious proposition that merits attention.

Doltologist

Talesin

The weak and the ill don't have a voice - let's not give them one. After all they are either stupid or mentally lazy, right? *heavy sarcasm*

I have no wish to mock the afflicted. There's another issue here, though.

I can't say for certain but my best guess is that there's as many people lurking and reading as there is posting, and maybe more. What's written in this hollowed forum is going to influence others. Seeing people ridiculed for their beliefs may just stop some poor sod from catching religion. It might just cause someone who is thinking of leaving jovie land to leave.

Let's also face the fact that there are often frank exchanges of views on this forum. It is no place for the weak.

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Ignorant Atheist Talk Show Host Destroyed by Agnostic Dr. Bart Erhman! Topic "Did Jesus and Paul exist?"

by MagicMItchJensen in

i want you to see how fake people are who pretend their open-minded, dr. erhman try's to reason with someone whose mind is totally made up.

the topic is whether there was a man named jesus and paul, the infidel atheist get's owned because he shows his true colors!.

1. when would you tell this fool he stupid or willfully ignoring the facts?.

Doltologist

FT

A person could make a very good blog post out of all the regurgitated outdated claims made by atheists in this thread.

What claims are outdated pray tell?

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Is RIDICULE acceptable in online debating?

by nicolaou in

this topic was inspired by one of fhn's comments on the 'warzone' thread, so i'll just restate my post there .

.. "i've been wondering for a while now if ridicule really is an unacceptable feature in debate - it certainly isn't a valid form of argumentation.

the thing is, some individuals really do come out with the most laughable nonsense and parade it as a serious proposition that merits attention.

Doltologist

I don't think ridicule is acceptable unless religion or similar is involved, in which case, it should be compulsory. Religion is one of the most evil things ever invented by man. Between 100 - 200 million have been murdered by christards alone. That isn't including the millions that have been raped, pillaged, tortured and enslaved. Anyone spreading religtard manure deserves to be ridiculed.

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Ignorant Atheist Talk Show Host Destroyed by Agnostic Dr. Bart Erhman! Topic "Did Jesus and Paul exist?"

by MagicMItchJensen in

i want you to see how fake people are who pretend their open-minded, dr. erhman try's to reason with someone whose mind is totally made up.

the topic is whether there was a man named jesus and paul, the infidel atheist get's owned because he shows his true colors!.

1. when would you tell this fool he stupid or willfully ignoring the facts?.

Doltologist

Pistoff

The historical reference and the body of early followers are most consistent with their having been a real man named Jesus, likely a very charismatic, cynic sage who made the mistake of visiting Jerusalem.

You really do need to watch the Carrier vid if you believe this.

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Ignorant Atheist Talk Show Host Destroyed by Agnostic Dr. Bart Erhman! Topic "Did Jesus and Paul exist?"

by MagicMItchJensen in

i want you to see how fake people are who pretend their open-minded, dr. erhman try's to reason with someone whose mind is totally made up.

the topic is whether there was a man named jesus and paul, the infidel atheist get's owned because he shows his true colors!.

1. when would you tell this fool he stupid or willfully ignoring the facts?.

Doltologist

Phizzy

Perhaps there was a King Arthur, and a Robin Hood. Of course the legends are nonsense, but the central figure just may have existed.

... and just may not have. However, you do raise a good point in that the evidence for the existence of Robin Hood and King Arthur are flimsy, even at best and yet, their legends persist, even today - oh, just like jesus in fact.

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Schoolyard bully mentality

by FusionTheism in

i'm not naming names, but i just want to encourage people on here or on reddit or twitter, and tell you that you do not have to tolerate people who act like schoolyard bullies in the way they speak to you online.

i think anonymity is a big part of it.

they feel like there is zero accountability so they can be a bully all they want.. i recommend just ignoring or blocking anyone who is verbally abusive or treats you like schoolyard bullies treated you.. life is way too short to spend any time dealing with those kinds of people..

Doltologist

HMTM

My father survived Belsen - just.

You are right - people are people.

What did christards do?

They helped to smuggle the Nazis that were responsible out of Germany to South America.

No I'm not Jewish. It wasn't just the Jews that they put in concentration camps.

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Schoolyard bully mentality

by FusionTheism in

i'm not naming names, but i just want to encourage people on here or on reddit or twitter, and tell you that you do not have to tolerate people who act like schoolyard bullies in the way they speak to you online.

i think anonymity is a big part of it.

they feel like there is zero accountability so they can be a bully all they want.. i recommend just ignoring or blocking anyone who is verbally abusive or treats you like schoolyard bullies treated you.. life is way too short to spend any time dealing with those kinds of people..

Doltologist

FT

You claim that we are not tolerant - at least you claim that some of us aren't. Yet, no one has banned you from this forum.

You have been allowed to post as you see fit.

Yes, your posts have been criticised, and not without good reason in my opinion, but you are free to write what you will and are free to do so in the future. This is a tolerant forum.

It's a great pity that we cannot do likewise on christard forums.

I have been on christard forums and been extremely polite, as have countless others before and after me. Once we proclaim our Atheism, that's it. We are ejected and banned for life without reason. Not only that, our IP addresses are circulated to other religtard forums so that we can't even register on them.

This forum claims to be tolerant and tolerant it is because it hasn't banned you. It allows you to say what you see fit.

The people on this forum are also open minded but not so open minded that their brains fall out.

Consider and look that up in your Funk and Wagnalls before you go bitching and moaning about the treatment you receive on this forum.