Cantleave
Excellent.
I do hope that telemetry11 watches it before he posts his next pile of shyte. He/she/it is getting a tad tedious and looking more of a twat with each post.
a few weeks ago, these two jovies turned up on my doorstep.
being in a good mood that particular day, i told them that if they could prove that god existed, i'd become a jovie - and i meant every word.. they gave me two documents which they asked me read and told me that they'd be back in a week.
the first was called "was life created?
Cantleave
Excellent.
I do hope that telemetry11 watches it before he posts his next pile of shyte. He/she/it is getting a tad tedious and looking more of a twat with each post.
fact: bible chronology says the flood occurred between 2348 and 2370 bce, depending on which scholar you listen to.
fact: the great pyramid of giza was constructed 200 years before, in c. 2560 bce..
so, if you believe in a literal interpretation of noah's flood, you believe that the egyptians built a great civilization, were destroyed by the flood in 2370 bce, and then somehow, they reappeared immediately after the flood, picked right back up where they left off without skipping a cultural beat.. oh, and isn't it ironic that legitimately studying the great pyramid of giza debunks jw mythology now?
Witness My Fury
It's time the bible was placed in the fiction category, along with all other religious books.
If that homophobic piece of shyte was written now, no publisher would ever touch it.
a few weeks ago, these two jovies turned up on my doorstep.
being in a good mood that particular day, i told them that if they could prove that god existed, i'd become a jovie - and i meant every word.. they gave me two documents which they asked me read and told me that they'd be back in a week.
the first was called "was life created?
Cofty
The stats telemetry cites are gibberish straight out of the old Creation book.
Yeh, quite so, but it's nice to see sheeple like telemetry11 make twats of themselves, especially on a public forum.
i want you to see how fake people are who pretend their open-minded, dr. erhman try's to reason with someone whose mind is totally made up.
the topic is whether there was a man named jesus and paul, the infidel atheist get's owned because he shows his true colors!.
1. when would you tell this fool he stupid or willfully ignoring the facts?.
Magic
Forgot to mention - only 7 of paul's epistles are thought to be genuine. Now why do you suppose early christards forged them, huh?
Oh, and Carrier has some interesting things to say about paul. You should listen to Carrier some time.
Oh, I don't have anything against Dr Erhman. It's just that knowledge and theories move on.
there are a lot of people on this site and others who even though they don't believe anymore still fill the seats at the meetings.. i was just wondering, if they all decided to leave at the same time, how many do you think would leave?
would the numbers drop dramatically?
i would love to see that..
D2
So would I but I don't think that it's gonna happen any day soon.
Firstly, jovies are well and truly brainwashed. jovie world has seen to that.
Secondly, jovies are weak people. They need to believe in something greater than themselves. Man has achieved much. He has survived this far. He has created great art, great literature and great science. Is this not enough?
Thirdly, people want to be liked. If jovies leave, they fear being shunned by those that stay and those that return. Well, guys, I prefer self respect above all else. How about you?
i want you to see how fake people are who pretend their open-minded, dr. erhman try's to reason with someone whose mind is totally made up.
the topic is whether there was a man named jesus and paul, the infidel atheist get's owned because he shows his true colors!.
1. when would you tell this fool he stupid or willfully ignoring the facts?.
Magic
The point that I'm making is that, once upon a time, we just accepted that god, jesus, etc. existed because religtards told us so.
Life isn't like that any more (thank goodness).
We now question - especially religtard dogma - and so we should. At least, non-jovies do anyhoo.
There was a time when we just accepted Josephus and Tacitus and the babble.
You state: "No rational scholar or anyone the historical community and consensus takes serious doubts "a religious man named Jesus Christ existed",
I think that you'll find Carrier does and puts a coherent and logical argument for doing so.
You also write: Dr. Erhman and Dr. Meier both accept the fact if you deny the historical evidence Jesus existed your going to have to wipe the slate clean of all historical figures existing since there's no evidence written by the scribes proving historical figures existed.
Rubbish. Each historical figure has to be taken on their own merits. The fact is that a hell of a lot rests on the existence of jesus and, right now, his existence rests on some very flimsy evidence.
i am initially thinking of the major religious institutions of christianity , catholic ,many branches , church of england , and the major protestant religions , too numerous to mention here.. after all their is 40,000 plus christian religions in the world today ?so obviously j.w.`s are not the only false religion .. so my real question is really , to do with the mainstream christian religions , why are`nt they more aggressive in their condemnation of the jehovah witness religion for their obvious failings ,flip backs ,contradictions ,prophecy`s that never eventuated , end of the world predictions ,re-inventing their past history , even distancing themselves from their past history , and their founding members , such as c.t.russell and j.f.rutherford whose policies they now reject... they need to get on board and bleed it for all it`s worth .. smiddy .
The last time that the CofE opened is gob, the press found out that they were a major WONGA shareholder.
The katlickers have scandal after scandal coming out so they keep schtum now.
Basically, religtards have much to hide in their history and there's a press hungry for scandal. No christard group dare attack another christard group lest they themselves get attacked.
fact: bible chronology says the flood occurred between 2348 and 2370 bce, depending on which scholar you listen to.
fact: the great pyramid of giza was constructed 200 years before, in c. 2560 bce..
so, if you believe in a literal interpretation of noah's flood, you believe that the egyptians built a great civilization, were destroyed by the flood in 2370 bce, and then somehow, they reappeared immediately after the flood, picked right back up where they left off without skipping a cultural beat.. oh, and isn't it ironic that legitimately studying the great pyramid of giza debunks jw mythology now?
Bugbear
They are not written on paper or Papyrus, they are written of stones in original. They are not transcriptions of translated transcriptions who is translated destroyed and translitterated again.
You forgot to mention "and guaranteed free from lying christard inserts".
fact: bible chronology says the flood occurred between 2348 and 2370 bce, depending on which scholar you listen to.
fact: the great pyramid of giza was constructed 200 years before, in c. 2560 bce..
so, if you believe in a literal interpretation of noah's flood, you believe that the egyptians built a great civilization, were destroyed by the flood in 2370 bce, and then somehow, they reappeared immediately after the flood, picked right back up where they left off without skipping a cultural beat.. oh, and isn't it ironic that legitimately studying the great pyramid of giza debunks jw mythology now?
Cappytan
Fact: Bible chronology says the flood occurred between 2348 and 2370 BCE, depending on which scholar you listen to.
Fact: the Great Pyramid of Giza was constructed 200 years before, in c. 2560 BCE.
Well, I wasn't around at the time of the great flood (or was that the Big Rain (Vicar of Dibley-style?)) but I've been to see the pyramids and even crawled around in one. I can assure you there isn't one tide mark. Maybe I should have gone to Specsavers?
i want you to see how fake people are who pretend their open-minded, dr. erhman try's to reason with someone whose mind is totally made up.
the topic is whether there was a man named jesus and paul, the infidel atheist get's owned because he shows his true colors!.
1. when would you tell this fool he stupid or willfully ignoring the facts?.
Sparrowdown
Here we go.
There we went.