Posts by Doltologist

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Help with understanding

by Doltologist in

please take pity on me someone and help.. i was going to say that i suffer from aspergers syndrome but actually, i've come to rather enjoy it.. no, seriously, i really do have aspergers which is why my posts may seem a little odd to some of you.

ok, they may seem bloody odd to most of you.. my world exists in a binary frame.

things are or they are not.. i know that in the "real world" things might be or might not be as well as are and are not.

Doltologist

Adjusted Knowledge

I feel that I must apologise for my last post. It could be taken as if I am being unhelpful. I'm not. The problem is that there is this wealth of information out there. Some is well researched. Some less. so. However, just because something is less well researched doesn't make it wrong and because something is well researched doesn't make it right either. If the research is biased and/or the documents suspect, then so will be the research.

Tacitus tells us a little about jusus and christians in AD 116. From what I've read, I think that Tacitus is genuine. However, what was his source? He tells us not. At best, Tacitus can only be considered a tertiary source, even at best. I'm not saying that Tacitus was lying but, it is possible that what he wrote was unwittingly based on lie.

Josephus also tells us about jesus in AD 93/94. From what I've read, I think that the original Josphus text was genuine. I also believe that the text relating to jesus was an insert by early christians. Regardless, it's still a secondary source, even at best.

I could go on but, at the end of the day, the evidence that jesus lived an earthly life is flimsy. Basically, even at this point, even with all of our technology, we do not have a definitive answer. It pains me to say this but it all comes down to 'probabilities'. I hate that word. It hurts my brain but that's where we are at.

The more wide the view I take of this whole area, the more convinced I get that god, jesus and the babble are the biggest hoax in Man's chequered history, PROBABLY. However, we must all seek our own truth because, at the end of the day, belief is a personal thing. That's why I suggest you do your own research and come to your own conclusion.

The great pity in all of this is RELIGION - One of Man's greatest mistakes.

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Help with understanding

by Doltologist in

please take pity on me someone and help.. i was going to say that i suffer from aspergers syndrome but actually, i've come to rather enjoy it.. no, seriously, i really do have aspergers which is why my posts may seem a little odd to some of you.

ok, they may seem bloody odd to most of you.. my world exists in a binary frame.

things are or they are not.. i know that in the "real world" things might be or might not be as well as are and are not.

Doltologist

Adjusted Knowledge:

Could you give me a reference to those of scholarly repute that believe the text that referenced Jesus was tampered with? Also what text exactly is being disputed as a forgery?

Suggest that you take the time to research the area yourself, rather than me point you in a given direction. That way, when you arrive at a conclusion, it will be one that you have arrived at and the one that you will agree with and trust. I could suggest Carrier as a starting point?

However, I think that it's important to look at this issue and its many facets as a whole rather than piecemeal. For example, how come that incidents that supposedly happened to jesus also happened to a number of historical deities too (eg. the resurrection?). Are we to believe that so many coincidences are realistic or are we to believe that jesus was a composite of historic deities? What are we to make of the fact that in spite of the plethora of miracles supposedly performed by jesus there is no primary source evidence? I could go on.

The existence of god is now under attack from science. It's not that science is out to disprove god, it's just that, in the search for truth, there will be some casualties and god may well be one of them, ultimately. Religion now understands this. Even the pope got involved last year when he stated that some scientists are now straying into 'god's realm'.

I now see religious groups battening down the hatches and madly scrambling for any purchase available in order that they able to defend the existence of their oh so precious Bronze Age Myth (AKA god, jesus, the babble yada, yada). Revisiting the likes of Josephus to see if they can spin and politic their way forward is just one such ploy. However, Josephus lived in Galilee about 30 mins. walk from where jesus was supposedly born. Yet, he makes no mention of this in his writings. Why? I could go on and on.

Looked at as a whole, the chances of jesus actually existing as a person aren't looking too good right now. There is no primary evidence whatsoever. The secondary evidence doesn't look good either, what little there is of it. If jesus falls, the rest falls too like a house of cards. Then, it's egg on face - BIG TIME. Then, just as Dawkins predicts, christianity could disappear in the space of a generation.

I also think that we also need to consider the following:

- Did life evolve or was it created?

- How did the universe come into being?

Science is winning both arguments at the moment and, if I was a betting man, I would want BIG, BIG, BIG odds before I bet on the big fella' me lad in the sky.

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Prayer - The ultimate act of stupidity

by Doltologist in

prayer is the act of saying something to someone that doesn't exist.

above all else, we need to respect ourselves for, if we don't, we are not capable of respecting others..

thirdly, bow to no one for if they had any respect for you, they wouldn't ask you to bow..

Doltologist

Prayer is the act of saying something to someone that doesn't exist. It is the ultimate act of stupidity.

However, it also plays a more sinister role in church and in society as a whole.

To pray is to perform an act which is associated with superstitious nonsense. To pray is totally illogical.

However, those who pray display subservient qualities to those who observe and have assumed power for it means that they are able to manipulate those who pray because they have shown that they can be manipulated.

We should all respect each other. That should be a given in our society. However, to pray and to bow down to something/someone is the ultimate act of denial of respect for ones self. Above all else, we need to respect ourselves for, if we don't, we are not capable of respecting others.

If you have ever flown on an aircraft and read the safety instructions, you will see that they advise that you should fit your own oxygen mask first in the event of an accident. Why? Because once you have fitted your own mask, you are now capable of helping others that need assistance. If you don't fit your own mask first, you aren't. Fitting one's own mask first isn't an act of selfishness, it's an act of intelligence.

First, respect yourself.

Secondly, respect others.

Thirdly, bow to no one for if they had any respect for you, they wouldn't ask you to bow.

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Prayers, are you worthy to do them? [5/15/90 wt]

by sowhatnow in

for those who still pray, and go to the kingdom hall, when was the last article on prayer?

whats the view now?.

king solomon asked that jehovah hear only foreigners who prayed toward gods temple in jerusalem.

Doltologist

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Prayer with my son before lunch. Your advice / experiences needed!

by Daniel1555 in

jw
friends

dear friends,.

i would like to hear your comments or suggestions on the following:.

a little background info.. i managed to fade completely.

Doltologist

Daniel1555

Just seen this. Hope you are still around to read it.

You and your wife are old enough to do what you will. It's a pity that some people can't get along but such is life.

I'm concerned about your son. He is innocent in all of this.

IMHO, he needs to be kept away from that horrible abomination (Jehovas Witnesses). They are evil people who pretend to be nice. They are spiteful, horrible people - not loving and kind as they claim. If your son grows up mostly with his mother, he will become another puppet for the Jovies to manipulate. For the sake of your son, you need to go for complete custody so that their influence is minimised.

I hope it all works out for you.

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Intelligent design my ass

by Doltologist in

so man was made by god in his image was he?.

so the human body was intelligently designed was it?.

you are kidding me !!.

Doltologist

Village Idiot:

Wouldn't God know what would happen without making a mess? He's supposed to be all knowing.

But does god know that he doesn't exist?

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Help with understanding

by Doltologist in

please take pity on me someone and help.. i was going to say that i suffer from aspergers syndrome but actually, i've come to rather enjoy it.. no, seriously, i really do have aspergers which is why my posts may seem a little odd to some of you.

ok, they may seem bloody odd to most of you.. my world exists in a binary frame.

things are or they are not.. i know that in the "real world" things might be or might not be as well as are and are not.

Doltologist

GT

I hope things work out.

Take care y'hear?

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Help with understanding

by Doltologist in

please take pity on me someone and help.. i was going to say that i suffer from aspergers syndrome but actually, i've come to rather enjoy it.. no, seriously, i really do have aspergers which is why my posts may seem a little odd to some of you.

ok, they may seem bloody odd to most of you.. my world exists in a binary frame.

things are or they are not.. i know that in the "real world" things might be or might not be as well as are and are not.

Doltologist

GrreatTeacher - Hi.

How bloody odd. I find one-on-many eye contact easy because I can just scan from person to person - just as long as I don't need to dwell on someone too long. One-on-one eye contact is impossible for me - unless I want to stare someone out - then it's simple because no one beats me at that stupid game.

I used to try and remember to smile. In the end, I just gave up.

I must admit, I don't like people but I do like chatting on line.

I used to have a problem getting jobs until I figured out how to get the job I wanted.

Firstly, I'd look for a job that no one else wanted - eg. a project that was in the mire.

Secondly, I'd come across as arrogant sod and gave them the impression that I could do the job stood on my head and that they needed me more than I needed them.

Thirdly, I never smiled or made eye contact because I didn't want them thinking that I wanted their job and that I was too good for it. Having Aspergers is a definite advantage here because you can relax and be yourself. AND, here's the kicker, they believe because you come across as one who genuinely doesn't give a flying fart whether they hire you or not.

I got most of the jobs I applied for.

I have no idea whether such jobs exist in teaching. If they do, it's probably where you belong and where you'd be happiest. You can only give my method a go and, let's face it, your method hasn't worked yet (no disrespect intended).

OK, my method may not appeal and I'm not suggesting that you try it. But, it may lead to an idea that may pay off.

Luck.

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Help with understanding

by Doltologist in

please take pity on me someone and help.. i was going to say that i suffer from aspergers syndrome but actually, i've come to rather enjoy it.. no, seriously, i really do have aspergers which is why my posts may seem a little odd to some of you.

ok, they may seem bloody odd to most of you.. my world exists in a binary frame.

things are or they are not.. i know that in the "real world" things might be or might not be as well as are and are not.

Doltologist

Xanthippe

I wasn't having a pop at you honest. In fact, when I wrote my post, I hadn't even seen yours. My sincere apologies if I have offended thee.

My comment was just a general one to highlight the fact that the 'proof' for the existence of jesus is nowhere near as strong as people think. In fact, its a bit flimsy, even at best.

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So I overheard a discussion that my son and wife were having about creation yesterday

by My Name is of No Consequence in

so i am getting ready for bed yesterday night and i overhear my teenage son and wife talking about how the evidence of creation far outweighs the evidence of evolution.

i heard my son say that evolution has so many holes and how could something happen from nothing.

i wanted to open the door and ask them both how the creator happened from nothing just to see what they would say..

Doltologist

Hi MNIONC

To understand the something from nothing argument, at the detailed level, requires the IQ the size of major planet. At the high level, however, it's understandable for someone of average intelligence.

The first step is wanting to look at all possible answers rather than the one(s) that one wants to believe.