Posts by DocBob

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Birds of a Feather

by Euphemism in

yesterday i received a flyer in the mail from the seventh-day adventists.

i knew that the witnesses were theologically an adventist group, of course.

but i had no idea how similar they were in their proselytizing pitch.

DocBob

I've found lots of their old books at estate auctions. They're almost identical. Even the coloring of the books and pictures is the same!

See this on my website for some examples http://docbob1.home.comcast.net/similar.htm

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A couple of questions about summer conventions (spinoff)

by razorMind in

being as i haven't been to a convention in years, i have a couple of questions:

do they still come out with that list of special-jw-rate hotels at the service meeting for the summer conventions?

also, i remember times when the list would be practically useless by the time my parents got home from that service meeting and started trying to make reservations.

DocBob

I didn't realize until I worked in Finance at the assemblies that a big reason they wanted all the JWs to use the hotels the org told them to is because they get a kickback in the form of free rooms.
I never knew this. Who got the free rooms? I can probably guess, but I'm curious to what you saw.

I never saw who got the free rooms. But I also never saw a check written out to cover the CO, DO or visiting Bethel speaker's rooms either.

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A couple of questions about summer conventions (spinoff)

by razorMind in

being as i haven't been to a convention in years, i have a couple of questions:

do they still come out with that list of special-jw-rate hotels at the service meeting for the summer conventions?

also, i remember times when the list would be practically useless by the time my parents got home from that service meeting and started trying to make reservations.

DocBob

I didn't realize until I worked in Finance at the assemblies that a big reason they wanted all the JWs to use the hotels the org told them to is because they get a kickback in the form of free rooms.

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did you ever miss the memorial?

by freelife in

did any of you ever miss the memorial while you were in?

i missed 2 of them.

once i had a very serious staff infection in my leg and i could not wear any pants or shorts because it ran all the way up my thigh.

DocBob

The last one I attended was in 1996. I haven't missed them at all ;-)

18

BLIZZARD

by chachasmum in

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hits nyc ho ho ho.

only i'm not hoing i have to work in this.

like walking my pooches.

DocBob

I was just told by my mom that we will get 2 feet tonight. We're on the coast of Maine, so I guess it's coming up from the South. EEEEEEEEEEEEK!

Hey Insomniac, drop me an e-mail at [email protected]. I'm also on the coast of Maine - and up to my kiester in snow

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Bethel is Cannanite god

by peacefulpete in

the choice to name the headquarters "bethel" is a reflection of the shallow scholarship that plagues the religion as a whole.

while insisting the name choice is because of the story of jacob resting his head on a sacred stone and having visions of a "ladder" (ziggurat) and thereafter piling stones for el (cannanite chief deity) to reside in, hence the name "bet-el", it seemed they were unaware that the same word "bethel" is the name of a deity possibly equated with chemosh.

of all the names to call the wt headquarters they chose a pagan deity's name.

DocBob

PeacefulPete,

See my article "Bethel, House of God or Symbol of Rank Apostacy" at http://docbob1.home.comcast.net/bethel.htm

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Firpo Carr defending Michael Jackson

by DocBob in

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yesterday i saw catherine crier doing a phone interview with dr. firpo carr on court tv.

carr is defending micheal jackson.

here are some links about this you may want to look at: .

DocBob

Yesterday I saw Catherine Crier doing a phone interview with Dr. Firpo Carr on Court TV. Carr is defending Micheal Jackson. Here are some links about this you may want to look at:

http://www.nbc4.tv/news/2682915/detail.html

http://www.sacbee.com/24hour/photos/story/1079274p-7538020c.html

Last I knew, Firpo was a JW. Why would a JW "in good standing" allow his daughter to visit and stay at the home of a disassociated JW like Jackson?

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What to expect at a JW funeral

by lovinglife in

i hope someone can "enlighten" me.

my grandmother recently passed away (91 yrs old) and they are having her funeral at the kh.

i can't remember ever having to attend one when i was a kid.

DocBob

JW funerals, like public talks and weddings are done from an outline supplied by the WTS. Here is the outline for funerals:

FUNERAL DISCOURSE

REMARKS REGARDING THE DECEASED (Use any that apply and are appropriate.)
Details regarding age, birth, when married, and so forth
By whom the deceased is survived
Dedication record, including privileges of service
Exemplary qualities displayed by the deceased (Eccl. 7:1)

THE HOPE THE DECEASED ENTERTAINED
Worshiped Jehovah, the God of wisdom, justice, love, power
Had faith in Jesus Christ (Acts 4:12)
Appreciated God's purpdse regarding earth (Gen. 1:28)
Sure to be realized (Isa. 11:9; 55:10, 11; Rev. 21:4)

Why good people die
Disobedience of Adam (-Gen. 3:19; contrast with Genesis 2:7.)
Offspring inherited deat6 (Rom. 5:12)

Condition of the dead
Soul is mortal (Ezek 18:4, 20)
Dead are unconscious (Ps. 146:4; Eccl. 3:19; 9:5, 10)
The resurredion hope
Made possible by sacrifice of Jesus Christ (Matt. 20:28)
Christ's resurrection a guarantee (1 Cor. 15:22, 23)
God uses Jesus to raise the dead (John 5:28, 29)
For the anointed, resurrection is to heavenly life (1 Cor. 15:51-54; Rev. 20:4, 6)
"Other sheep" resurrected to life in earthly Paradise (Luke 23:43; John 10:16)
Armageddon survivors can hope to see the deceased one again soon
Others too are in line for resurrection (Ads 24:15)

WHY IT IS GOOD TO GO TO HOUSE OF MOURNING
Can comfort the bereaved; loss is mutual
Take to heart uncertainty of life (Ps. 90:12; Eccl. 7:2)
Makes us think about how we are using our life

HOW WE CAN BENEFIT FROM BEING HERE
While living, make good name with Jehovah God (Eccl. 7:1)
Lay up treasures in heaven (Matt. 6:19-21)
One way is to take zealous part in witness work, if qualified (Matt. 24:14; 28:19, 20)
In this way and by godly conduct, we contribute to sanctification of Jehovah's name
(Prov. 27:11)
Resurrection hope an incentive to learn and do divine will(l Cor. 15:58)

(Note: Instead of eulogizing the deceased, use the material in this outline to give a fine witness
concerning the truth. Good balance should be observed in this regard. Doctrinal points can be
presented as beliefs of the deceased, which served as motivation for him. Purpose of talk is to
uphold Jehovah God as a God of love and mercy and at the same time bring comfort to the
bereaved. Use of a song such as No. 102 (53) or 187 (93) is optional. A brief prayer at the close
is fitting When arrangement is made to go to the grave, it is well to consider quite briefly the
hope through the Kingdom, reading one or two scriptures, such as Job 14:14, 15 and
1 Corinthians 15:5413-57. This service may also be closed with prayer, thanking Jehovah for
the resurrection hope, which is of great comfort. The talk need not exceed 30 minutes.)

Printed in U.S.A.
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My Disassosiation?

by shamus in

i have been thinking a lot since i posted my experience about leaving the troof.

if you haven't read it already, it's here:.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/59152/1.ashx.

DocBob

shamus,

I wrote a letter and sent it to 70 of my old JW friends. In it, I specifically stated that I was not disassociating because I saw no Biblical reason to. When the elders called and invited me to meet with them to face charges of apostacy, I sent them a 5 page legal letter.

You can read them both on my site at home.comcast.net/~docbob1

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JWD Maps America America

by Lady Lee in

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well here is the start .

if your name is not on it then either it wasn't on the old texas map or it wasn't added to the previous list so... .

if you want your name added please say so and let me know what state you are in.

DocBob

I'm in southern Maine