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Decline in Slovenia
by izobcenec ini would just like to inform you all, that we have 1% decline of dubs here in slovenia.... its the first ever decline in the history of our country and we are partying all night long :)
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Decline in Slovenia
by izobcenec ini would just like to inform you all, that we have 1% decline of dubs here in slovenia.... its the first ever decline in the history of our country and we are partying all night long :)
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izobcenec
well hello redorc!
it's nice to meet you :)
even been to slovenia later?
do you speak any slovenian?
come to our websites:
http://www.jehovovexprice.tk
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Decline in Slovenia
by izobcenec ini would just like to inform you all, that we have 1% decline of dubs here in slovenia.... its the first ever decline in the history of our country and we are partying all night long :)
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izobcenec
I would just like to inform you all, that we have 1% decline of dubs here in Slovenia...
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2002 annual report
by izobcenec insilentlambs has provided the folowing numbers:.
increase of average publishers:
usa 3% (last year 1%)
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Silentlambs has provided the folowing numbers:
Increase of average publishers: USA 3% (last year 1%)France 2% ( last year -2%)
Russia 6% ( last year was 4 %)
Japan 0%
Increase in Britain, Australia, New Zealand, Spain, Italy Worldwide increase: 2.8% (1.7% last year)
Memorial partakers: 8,760 (up 30 from last year)
Number baptized: 265,469 (last year: 263,431)
Bible studies worldwide are up 7.9%
http://www.jehovahsxwitnesses.tkEdited by - izobcenec on 16 November 2002 16:46:14
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km 12/02: Don't send eMails to the GB !!!
by GermanXJW inthe german kingdom ministry for december 2002 contains an announcement not to send emails to the headquarters or to the gb.. do foreign editions contain this announcement as well?
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thanx for the info, germanJW...can you
provide scanned copy...or mail it to my
email: [email protected]
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Judge orders life-saving operation
by izobcenec injudge orders life-saving operation .
doctor wins case against parents who refused to allow a blood transfusion for their dying baby.
gillian anstey.
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Judge orders life-saving operation
Doctor wins case against parents who refused to allow a blood transfusion for their dying baby
Gillian AnsteyA Johannesburg doctor went to court to force a father to approve a life-saving blood transfusion for his dying 10-day-old son.
The wisdom-of-Solomon drama played itself out in the Johannesburg High Court two weeks ago after Reuben Brown's parents refused to give Dr Nicoletta Hay permission for a transfusion because of religious reasons and fears of tainted blood.
Hay is a paediatrician in the intensive care unit of Garden City Clinic in Mayfair, Johannesburg.
Despite the court being told that "if the blood transfusion is not administered today, the child will die", Stephen Brown insisted that he and his wife, Tersia, did not want their firstborn to undergo the procedure.
Brown told the court that while he was not a Jehovah's Witness (who believe taking blood into the body violates God's laws), he had been brought up that way and had chosen it as "the moral obligation of my life".
His wife was also a very religious person who closely followed the Bible' s principle not to partake of blood, he testified.
Brown said that Hay could not guarantee the transfusion would save his son's life. "They also cannot guarantee [the blood] is free of disease." He asked if the clinic would take responsibility if his son contracted HIV .
He said he had "absolute faith" in Hay "but it comes to a point where you have to rely on a higher power to see matters through, otherwise do not believe in the higher power".
However, Hay testified that the newborn would die without the transfusion. "I cannot state categorically that Reuben will live if he receives this blood transfusion but I can say with a high probability, with a lot of certainty, that he will die if he does not receive the blood, " said Hay, whose application was supported by Garden City Clinic.
She said Reuben had been born extremely ill with an infection after a long, difficult labour. The infant had been mostly confined to paediatric intensive care.
Hay said Reuben had improved dramatically after being admitted, but had then picked up another infection.
"Reuben has deteriorated so much that I think he may die in the next few hours," Hay said.
His heart, brain and blood pressure were under strain.
Hay said the baby desperately needed the transfusion to improve the capacity of the blood to carry more oxygen to the liver which would produce antibodies to help him fight the infection.
She also insisted that while people might believe "these parents do not care about their child by refusing this blood transfusion", this was not the case.
Brown told the court he would abide by its decision. "As a separate and unemotional body, I feel it is for the court to make up their minds.
"Whatever the outcome is, let us hope it is going to be the best for the baby," he said.
Judge Mohamed Jajbhay said he did not profess to have the wisdom of Solomon needed to make the decision.
"I commence with a prayer that baby Brown be given the health, the dignity and that his parents be given the peace of mind that they deserve," he said.
He then ruled that Reuben have the transfusion urgently.
"One day, God willing, when he grows up you will explain to him that the decision was mine, that I had a decision to make," the judge said. "That you as his parents did all that was in your power and ability to make sure that you did not compromise on your decision . . . But baby Reuben needs a second chance, he needs whatever chance he has, let us give him that chance."
The judge also asked to be kept informed of Reuben's progress.
The ruling was immediately conveyed to the clinic and before Hay and the Browns had even left the court, the transfusion had started .
Reuben's mother hugged Hay after the ruling.
On Friday, Hay said that the baby was off the ventilator and "looking very well".
Brown said yesterday the family wished to thank those who had supported them with their prayers. "We thank God for placing our child in the care of such capable medical people and hope for a speedy and uncomplicated medical recovery."
Judge orders life-saving operation
Doctor wins case against parents who refused to allow a blood transfusion for their dying baby
Gillian AnsteyA Johannesburg doctor went to court to force a father to approve a life-saving blood transfusion for his dying 10-day-old son.
The wisdom-of-Solomon drama played itself out in the Johannesburg High Court two weeks ago after Reuben Brown's parents refused to give Dr Nicoletta Hay permission for a transfusion because of religious reasons and fears of tainted blood.
Hay is a paediatrician in the intensive care unit of Garden City Clinic in Mayfair, Johannesburg.
Despite the court being told that "if the blood transfusion is not administered today, the child will die", Stephen Brown insisted that he and his wife, Tersia, did not want their firstborn to undergo the procedure.
Brown told the court that while he was not a Jehovah's Witness (who believe taking blood into the body violates God's laws), he had been brought up that way and had chosen it as "the moral obligation of my life".
His wife was also a very religious person who closely followed the Bible' s principle not to partake of blood, he testified.
Brown said that Hay could not guarantee the transfusion would save his son's life. "They also cannot guarantee [the blood] is free of disease." He asked if the clinic would take responsibility if his son contracted HIV .
He said he had "absolute faith" in Hay "but it comes to a point where you have to rely on a higher power to see matters through, otherwise do not believe in the higher power".
However, Hay testified that the newborn would die without the transfusion. "I cannot state categorically that Reuben will live if he receives this blood transfusion but I can say with a high probability, with a lot of certainty, that he will die if he does not receive the blood, " said Hay, whose application was supported by Garden City Clinic.
She said Reuben had been born extremely ill with an infection after a long, difficult labour. The infant had been mostly confined to paediatric intensive care.
Hay said Reuben had improved dramatically after being admitted, but had then picked up another infection.
"Reuben has deteriorated so much that I think he may die in the next few hours," Hay said.
His heart, brain and blood pressure were under strain.
Hay said the baby desperately needed the transfusion to improve the capacity of the blood to carry more oxygen to the liver which would produce antibodies to help him fight the infection.
She also insisted that while people might believe "these parents do not care about their child by refusing this blood transfusion", this was not the case.
Brown told the court he would abide by its decision. "As a separate and unemotional body, I feel it is for the court to make up their minds.
"Whatever the outcome is, let us hope it is going to be the best for the baby," he said.
Judge Mohamed Jajbhay said he did not profess to have the wisdom of Solomon needed to make the decision.
"I commence with a prayer that baby Brown be given the health, the dignity and that his parents be given the peace of mind that they deserve," he said.
He then ruled that Reuben have the transfusion urgently.
"One day, God willing, when he grows up you will explain to him that the decision was mine, that I had a decision to make," the judge said. "That you as his parents did all that was in your power and ability to make sure that you did not compromise on your decision . . . But baby Reuben needs a second chance, he needs whatever chance he has, let us give him that chance."
The judge also asked to be kept informed of Reuben's progress.
The ruling was immediately conveyed to the clinic and before Hay and the Browns had even left the court, the transfusion had started .
Reuben's mother hugged Hay after the ruling.
On Friday, Hay said that the baby was off the ventilator and "looking very well".
Brown said yesterday the family wished to thank those who had supported them with their prayers. "We thank God for placing our child in the care of such capable medical people and hope for a speedy and uncomplicated medical recovery."
SOURCE: http://www.sundaytimes.co.za/2002/11/10/news/news09.asp
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Banned church member sues Jehovah's Witnesses
by izobcenec ina normandy resident who was disfellowshipped from jehovah's witnesses is suing the organization for $7 million on grounds the alleged action against her was wrong.
barbara joanna anderson filed the lawsuit thursday in coffee county circuit court.. she is seeking $2 million in compensatory damages, plus $5 million in punitive damages.. the defendants are listed as:.
* watchtower bible and tract society of new york inc.. * watchtower bible and tract society of pennsylvania inc.. * watchtower enterprises llc.. * watchtower foundation inc.. * watchtower associates ltd.. * kingdom support services inc.. * christian congregation of jehovah's witnesses.. * religious order of jehovah's witnesses.. * the watchtower group inc.. * manchester congregation of jehovah's witnesses elders.. * lawrence a. seely, gary hobson, dale dormanen, robert e. matthews, david semonian, j.r. brown, and john does no.
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A Normandy resident who was disfellowshipped from Jehovah's Witnesses is suing the organization for $7 million on grounds the alleged action against her was wrong. Barbara Joanna Anderson filed the lawsuit Thursday in Coffee County Circuit Court.
She is seeking $2 million in compensatory damages, plus $5 million in punitive damages.
The defendants are listed as:
* Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York Inc.
* Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania Inc.
* Watchtower Enterprises LLC.
* Watchtower Foundation Inc.
* Watchtower Associates LTD.
* Kingdom Support Services Inc.
* Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses.
* Religious Order of Jehovah's Witnesses.
* The Watchtower Group Inc.
* Manchester Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses Elders.
* Lawrence A. Seely, Gary Hobson, Dale Dormanen, Robert E. Matthews, David Semonian, J.R. Brown, and John Does No. 1 through No. 4.
Mrs. Anderson and her husband, Joe, had publicly spoken about alleged sexual child abuse being widespread among the Jehovah's Witnesses denomination.
The Andersons are members of the Silentlambs, which was organized to stop what they say has been repeated sexual abuse permitted because of Jehovah Witness bylaws.
Mrs. Anderson had said the denomination has a policy that does not require pedophile incidences to be reported to law enforcement authorities. She added that Jehovah Witnesses say they handle such matters in house.
However, Mrs. Anderson said what in effect happens is pedophiles end up being protected by a cover-up which allows them to continue their illegal actions.
She added they are often moved about through the denomination's many locations, which allows them to continue their actions.
She said child sexual abuse cases have occurred in Coffee County.
Mrs. Anderson said her and her husband's efforts to help change the system have resulted in retaliation from the denomination.
The Andersons have been disfellowshipped by the Kingdom Hall in Tullahoma where they attended. Disfellowshipping, the equivalent of excommunication, is the harshest punishment handed down by the organization against members. Shunning is included as part of the punishment, which separates families.
Mrs. Anderson said she is no longer able to see or communicate with her son, Lance Anderson, or his family who live at Mishawaka, Ind. She added that Lance is a practicing Jehovah Witness and is bound by the denomination's rules.
Watchtower spokesman J.R. Brown previously defended Jehovah's Witnesses' policies.
"Clearly, with us having 95,000 congregations around the world and three to five to six elders in each, mistakes may have been made," he said. "But that does not mean that we don't have a strong and aggressive policy that shows we abhor child molestation."
Brown said that anyone found guilty of molestation by a church judicial committee is removed from all positions of responsibility and cannot evangelize door-to-door without being accompanied by a fellow Jehovah's Witness.
Mrs. Anderson says in the lawsuit that she can "no longer pursue her work to assist Jehovah's Witnesses who are child abuse victims because they are prohibited from speaking to a disfellowshipped person.
"This has caused irreparable harm to victims who are barred from taking to her."
The suit says Mrs. Anderson has "suffered severe emotional stress as a result of all of the foregoing acts complained of and that she has incurred medical expenses for treatment of her emotional problems which in turn caused physical problems."
The suit says she has suffered "severe emotional stress and the resulting medical expenses and physical problems were caused by the defendants with the specific intent to cause emotional distress and with a reckless disregard of the probability of causing that distress."
The suit also says that "the conduct of the defendants acting in concert with each other was extreme and outrageous and would be considered as such by the general public."The Tullahoma News 2002
SOURCE: http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?BRD=1614&dept_id=161052&newsid=6011345&PAG=461&rfi=9
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TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS IN AUSTRALIA
by izobcenec inwatchtower
bible and tract society of australia.
box 280, ingleburn, nsw 1890 australia.
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izobcenec
I have requested original scan from Silentlambs...
minimus: what do you mean with this: "Why aren't the scriptures identified.?"
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TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS IN AUSTRALIA
by izobcenec inwatchtower
bible and tract society of australia.
box 280, ingleburn, nsw 1890 australia.
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izobcenec
minimus, you are saying that this is a fake letter right?
I mean, scanned letter can also be fake you know, with
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TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS IN AUSTRALIA
by izobcenec inwatchtower
bible and tract society of australia.
box 280, ingleburn, nsw 1890 australia.
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izobcenec
like some of you noticed, few things were missing in that letter...I had few
formatting problems, but I think, the letter should be ok now...It was sent
to me by Silentlambs so I guess its genuine...why would Bill post fake
letters?