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  The power of witches and occultism

  by greendawn in

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  many believe that the power of witches, male or female, to cause a great deal of harm and suffering by invoking the venomous power of the demons is an evident fact.

  there are many stories of such activities going on, the casting of spells, enchantments and curses, harming humans in a psychological way through the use of these invisible powers.

  some believe these are just fanciful ideas and fairy tales, the atheists have no option after all but to believe this.

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  serotonin_wraith

  Nice edit there, freyd.

  How can someone have as many posts as you and not know this is an EX-JW discussion board? If you're a JW, you're going against your religion by even being here.
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  The power of witches and occultism

  by greendawn in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  many believe that the power of witches, male or female, to cause a great deal of harm and suffering by invoking the venomous power of the demons is an evident fact.

  there are many stories of such activities going on, the casting of spells, enchantments and curses, harming humans in a psychological way through the use of these invisible powers.

  some believe these are just fanciful ideas and fairy tales, the atheists have no option after all but to believe this.

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  serotonin_wraith

  shell69:

  But this is what I believe, and it brings me comfort

  Could that be why you believe?

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  I think being able to control people from a distance using invisible super powers is superstitious nonsense, right up there with talking to the dead, thinking the position of planets affects people's love lives and detecting water with a stick. If any 'witch' thinks that's offensive, then please put a curse on me and prove me wrong. No talk of being forgiving of what I say, you have my permission to do this. Show me it's real. Until you do, I'll imagine a big D on that pointy hat.

  (If curses aren't your thing, why not give me some good luck instead as proof?)
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  The power of witches and occultism

  by greendawn in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  many believe that the power of witches, male or female, to cause a great deal of harm and suffering by invoking the venomous power of the demons is an evident fact.

  there are many stories of such activities going on, the casting of spells, enchantments and curses, harming humans in a psychological way through the use of these invisible powers.

  some believe these are just fanciful ideas and fairy tales, the atheists have no option after all but to believe this.

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  serotonin_wraith

  Some believe these are just fanciful ideas and fairy tales, the atheists have no option after all but to believe this.

  This isn't true. An atheist is someone who lacks belief in a god, that's it. I could believe in ghosts and still be an atheist.

  I don't believe in witchcraft though. Didn't that kind of thinking die out with the Dark Ages? Apparently not...
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  Spirituality vs. Religion - what's the difference?

  by truth_about_the_truth in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  here is an excerpt from a book called "fresh wisdom-breakthrough to enlightenment" that really hits the point:

  the con of religion

  we have never met a christian who has given up everything and followed christ.

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  Before matter and energy, there could have been a state of potential

  I agree. But the key word is COULD. Nobody knows. I think this is why I couldn't be spiritual. To be spiritual is to say you know, which I feel would be dishonest. I don't know why but I'm perfectly happy with unanswered questions. It means we have something to strive for.
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  Spirituality vs. Religion - what's the difference?

  by truth_about_the_truth in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  here is an excerpt from a book called "fresh wisdom-breakthrough to enlightenment" that really hits the point:

  the con of religion

  we have never met a christian who has given up everything and followed christ.

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  serotonin_wraith

  Thanks Narkissos.

  Blueviceroy, I think a big part of this is wanting to believe or not having that desire. You say '

  I want to believe there is a wonderful loving creator I want to feel connection to the divine.'

  For me, I see that things are connected, and I think 'Yeah? Well that's obvious! It's hardly a revelation about existence.'

  Thinking everything is connected says nothing about a creator, only the nature of our universe. Things affect other things. It's how change happens.

  You say 'until then we must know that we are loved and valued and our existence has a purpose thats all I have and when I have THAT I know there is more than just this shitbag I inhabit there is more than just suffering and struggle and confusion'

  I just don't have that desire. I don't need there to be a great big meaning to life, some divine plan beyond my understanding. What's the meaning of a dog's life? What's the meaning of a bacteria's life? I'm just part of their world, so why should I be special? We're just a species that developed a bigger brain. Natural disasters happen because of the type of planet we're on. We're lucky enough to just have life on this planet!

  We're creatures made mostly of water on a speck of dust in the vastness of the cosmos. In the grand scheme of things, are we that important? Isn't wanting to think we should have some divine purpose rather bigheaded?

  It could just come down to what we're satisfied with. I'm okay with this reality, and I think others want to be something more than they are.
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  Prove to me Jesus existed...............

  by passive suicide in

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  here's a thought guys......prove that jesus existed at all..using anything besides the bible....or the writings of josephus (which have been proven tampered with by the early christian church).

  you are all arguing a moot point...not only has the 'organization' been deceiving you.....but the bible itself is a made up, bit of pap, used to enslave man to his own dismay....prove me wrong.

  use historical accuracy.....i'm waiting......

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  serotonin_wraith

  You might equally have asked us to prove that Julius Caesar existed without making any reference to works of antiquity...

  Coin of Julius Caesar found at Hamlin Lane allotments

  This silver denarius of Julius Caesar of 54-51 BC was dug up in Mr Webber’s allotment at Hamlin Lane in 1956. It was minted in Gaul, and shows (just visible) an elephant standing above the word CAESAR; the reverse shows the sacred implements used in sacrifice.
  
  Such coins were still in circulation in the mid and late first century, and are more likely to reflect activity at that time, rather than in Caesar’s time, when Britain was outside the Roman empire.

  Just google search Julius Caesar coin for plenty more.
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  Spirituality vs. Religion - what's the difference?

  by truth_about_the_truth in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  here is an excerpt from a book called "fresh wisdom-breakthrough to enlightenment" that really hits the point:

  the con of religion

  we have never met a christian who has given up everything and followed christ.

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  serotonin_wraith

  Satanus:

  In a meditation focused on something/someone, the connection can sometimes come more alive, for some people. This falls into the psychic ability classification.

  I'm open to believing in psychic powers, but so far I'm unconvinced they actually exist. I think humans are more alike than not, and sometimes they can pick up feelings and thoughts from others due to subconscious triggers. We read body language, we detect subtle changes in the tone of the voice, we see emotion in peoples eyes, and so on. I wouldn't call it a force, I still think it's all physical.

  It's true we are all stardust. But, in addition to that, we all came from a prestardust source. The connection to that source is still there, as are connections of everything to everything else that came from the same source. I see the connection as based on, for lack of a better word to describe it, spirit.

  Could it be described as energy too? I can understand it if it can be called that. Energy cannot be destroyed, only transferred. The speed in which our universe spread out was energy, the way stars are born, then die, and pass on their matter in creating new stars is energy. The way humans give birth, die, pass their energy to the ground to continue on. We're all connected by energy. I certainly don't think this energy is conscious though (not that you think that, but some may).

  Brahman is the unchanging, infinite, immanent, and transcendent reality which is the Divine Ground of all matter , energy , time , space , being , and everything beyond in this universe.

  I can't go back further than the matter, energy, time and space, I don't think. Before the Big Bang, no one can know what was there. If people believe this 'spirit' is before all that, I can't agree. Not until I have reason to. For all I know, the energy and matter has always existed in some form or another before our universe started. It may go back for infinity, and if so there's no place for a spiritual realm.

  diamondblue1974-

  That inspiration can then often drive you forward in various ways, it can drive an innate creative sense so that you express yourself outwardly. It can also give you strength in adversity, it can open up new solutions to problems that you had previously not thought possible, it can be any one of these things, it can all of them together or more.

  I can see how thinking about it can inspire people. I don't feel I need it to be inspired. I find my inspiration from many places. Even thinking about eternity, the universe, how everything is connected... But to call that spirituality is going too far for me. It can all be explained in scientific ways, and whatever is beyond our understanding should be a question left open until science does answer it, as it has with everything else we've thought was mystical in the past.

  siegswife-

  I told her that in the Bible it says that there will come a time that everyone who kills you will believe they're doing it for God.

  Where's that scripture found?
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  Prove to me Jesus existed...............

  by passive suicide in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  here's a thought guys......prove that jesus existed at all..using anything besides the bible....or the writings of josephus (which have been proven tampered with by the early christian church).

  you are all arguing a moot point...not only has the 'organization' been deceiving you.....but the bible itself is a made up, bit of pap, used to enslave man to his own dismay....prove me wrong.

  use historical accuracy.....i'm waiting......

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  serotonin_wraith

  In 1920 a man called George jumped over a house. Lots of people saw him do it, but unfortunately no one wrote it down. Or if they did, their writings were lost very early on. I know it happened because my grandfather told my mother and my mother told me. I've now made a record of it in this thread. In 2000 years this post will be proof that George really existed.

  Yeah...
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  Prove to me Jesus existed...............

  by passive suicide in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  here's a thought guys......prove that jesus existed at all..using anything besides the bible....or the writings of josephus (which have been proven tampered with by the early christian church).

  you are all arguing a moot point...not only has the 'organization' been deceiving you.....but the bible itself is a made up, bit of pap, used to enslave man to his own dismay....prove me wrong.

  use historical accuracy.....i'm waiting......

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  Why would the early Christians die under Nero for a ficticious character?

  Why do extremist Muslims die for Allah? Does Allah exist then?
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  Question for Christians Re: Cures

  by serotonin_wraith in

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  2. beliefs

  this is actually a sincere question (believe it or not!).

  i've mentioned how christians may not look to find cures for things such as cancer, because they believe jesus will sort it all out when he returns sometime soon.

  there were some who disagreed and said cures can still be sought.. but i thought about that.

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  serotonin_wraith

  Some people seem to be satisfied for the time being with the paradoxes and contradictions. I don't think I personally can be. But I appreciate everyones responses and help.