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  Landover Bapist under attack!

  by Elsewhere in

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  here is a crazy site that is trying to shut down the landover baptist web site.

  i can't help but wonder if it is a joke.. http://207.67.219.101/objective/index.html.

  fyi: landover is located at: www.landoverbaptist.com.

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  detective

  That's a joke. At least, if it isn't, it's incredibly funny. But i'm thinking it is.

  Note the banner ad at the bottom. (paraphrased: click on the link below to visit other good christian websites... and nothing is listed).
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  Insecurity and Fear

  by RunningMan in

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  i heard a sermon by a tv evangelist yesterday (a fellow by the name of hagee).

  i normally don't watch this stuff, but it was specifically pointed out to me.. he was talking about marraige, and he made a point that has stuck with me.

  he said that if a person is not willing to tollerate any disagreement with their ideas, then that person is likely motivated by insecurity and fear.

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  detective

  I've always hated the phrase "agree to disagree", it's like nails on a chalkboard with me. But I have no problem with the concept itself.

  I think the reason I have always hated the phrase is because I had a friend who used it constantly but he was the kind of person who would put regularly out some absurd assertion (moon is made of cheese) and despite a valid argument to the contrary would always dismiss the other persons ideas with that statement. Without fail.

  He would tell you he has a grapefruit for a heart and after normal conversation failed you- after endless x-rays, medical exams and proofs got you nowhere with this guy, you could open his chest with a butter knife and pull his ailing heart from his chest to show it to him and his dying words would be still be "let's agree to disagree". It was incredibly infuriating.

  But what do you expect from a guy who carried a travel kit with him everywhere he went just in case he got lucky.
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  JW Folklore ?

  by dobby in

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  got this in an email today from someone - thought it might be of interest.

  we've all heard or read scores of these, so if this is not new sorry to make you read it again.. of course the fact it was related at a circuit assembly makes it the stone cold truth :)!.

  subject: re: fw: jehovah hears prayers.

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  I'm touched.

  The couple want a kid. Can't have one so the adoption agency says, "hey, take one of these older asian babies 'cause there ain't as much a market for them". So the couple agrees...la la la... happy they are going to have a family.

  And then... They meet the witnesses. They convert. Now they have to re-think the kid thing because the group takes up alot of time. They tell the adoption agency, "no thanks, we gonna wait until after apocalypse". The agency says, "but wait, we got one and he's already on the way for you".

  STOP.

  This is where the loving couple that knows there ain't much of a market for an older asian child has to go home and pray over whether or not take this kid in!
  But they've got cult recruiting to do and a kid is a real drain time, so they have to think it over now!

  So, when they were worldly- they just wanted a kid to love.
  Then they hooked up with a group that actually had them so allegedly christianized that they would turn their backs on a orphan kid who has far reduced chances of getting a home elsewhere since their ain't much of a market for him due to his age! Because it MIGHT reduce time attempting to convert people.

  But, because the child they originally wanted has now become a burden- Jah throws 'em a bonus- the kid likes cults!!!

  (drying my tears- nice story, really)
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  Advice on parking lot accident

  by bboyneko in

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  in the following scenario, who is at fault:.

  a parked vehicle (car a) has just parked.

  the driver gets out, and the passenger starts to get out a little after the driver does.

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  detective

  I think the point of impact on car B might have some bearing on this too. An adjuster may be able to assess whether or not the door was open or opened into car B based on where damage to car B is.

  Normally I agree that stationary vehicles usually win out, I think I recall something about the opening the car door issue because it's quite a common fender bender. And, many bicyclists can tell you horror stories galore about it.
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  celebration of birthdays...a matter of conscience?

  by Angst in

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  my family and i have argued about this for awhile now and i would like someone to confirm this.

  back in the late nineties at a district convention during the late sunday afternoon (yawn) symposium i swear i heard mention that the society now views the celebration of ones birthday to be a conscience matter and should be done with extreme caution so as not to affend others who may still view it as wrong.

  forgive me for not remembering which year it was that this was mentioned.

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  It says that the Romans observed the birth of Artemis and the day of Apollo. In contrast, "although the ancient Israelis kept records of the ages of their male citizens, there is no evidence that they had any festivities on the anniversary of the birth date."

  Yup. The division of public records in my city hall knows when I was born. They don't keep on file how many people partook of the cookie monster cake I had back on my fourth birthday.
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  WT Society is watching us?!

  by lv4fer in

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  i just can't believe that they have people waste their time with what is said here.

  is this board and the likes really that important/damaging to them?

  don't get me wrong i hope this board and the likes, enlightens alot of people and brings them out of the society, it just that i guess it boggles my mind.

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  detective

  Would you believe scientologists monitor opposition sites?

  They do.

  As for the watchtower: We're talking about a paranoid little fringe group with a persecution complex! Look at how they police their members! It's all about control. Cults are like that.

  I believe that they regularly monitor opposition websites.
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  Find your IDEAL religion!

  by Sirona in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so if you are not jw, perhaps you would like to know what religion is most in-line with your beliefs?.

  heres a simple quiz:.

  http://www.selectsmart.com/religion/ .

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  detective

  1. Neo-Pagan (100%) Click here for info
  2. Liberal Quakers (96%) Click here for info
  3. Unitarian Universalism (93%) Click here for info
  4. Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (87%) Click here for info
  5. New Age (87%) Click here for info
  6. Secular Humanism (81%) Click here for info
  7. Reform Judaism (75%) Click here for info
  8. Mahayana Buddhism (66%) Click here for info
  9. Bahá'í Faith (64%) Click here for info
  10. Orthodox Quaker (64%) Click here for info
  11. Theravada Buddhism (63%) Click here for info
  12. Sikhism (61%) Click here for info
  13. Scientology (57%) Click here for info
  14. Taoism (57%) Click here for info
  15. New Thought (50%) Click here for info
  16. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (49%) Click here for info
  17. Nontheist (48%) Click here for info
  18. Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (45%) Click here for info
  19. Mainline to Conservative Christian/Protestant (40%) Click here for info
  20. Islam (37%) Click here for info
  21. Jainism (37%) Click here for info
  22. Orthodox Judaism (37%) Click here for info
  23. Seventh Day Adventist (36%) Click here for info
  24. Hinduism (35%) Click here for info
  25. Eastern Orthodox (28%) Click here for info
  26. Roman Catholic (28%) Click here for info
  27. Jehovah's Witness (23%) Click here for info
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  non-jw's please check in here

  by dungbeetle in

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  i don't know if anyone has said this before, but i wanted to say a big thank you to all of you non-jw's who have put up with us and stayed with us and helped us out so much.. i know offhand: jerome, detective, and hawkaw.

  i know there are many many more of you, but please step up here and take a very well-deserved bow and get a very well-deserved hand from me and from others..

  salute!!!!!

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  detective

  I can't believe how much I've learned since I began investigating this group a little over a year ago. I'm a little embarassed about how long it took me before I finally got so baffled by witness behaviors and ideas that I finally started to poke around. I guess I just know people who are pretty darn good at leading double lives.

  It never ceases to amaze me how bloated a self-image the organization promotes. It's true that most outsiders have little to no knowledge of the organization. I was one of those people. If I hadn't been drawn into the warped little world of this group- even in the peripheral sense that I was- I probably would still be one of those people saying, "aren't jehovah's witnesses those people with the briefcases and no appreciation of a good cake with candles?" Okay, maybe I wouldn't have been quite that bad, but I certainly didn't know much at all about them.

  I'm indebted to all the people who went through such turmoil and still found the strength to share their stories, start websites devoted to informing the public and the endless hours of documentation and researching that others put in (making my researching much easier to do).

  And, as an added bonus, I get to check out some very interesting spiritual/biblical conversations. I've always been fascinated by religionism and faith issues. I like people who not only encourage me to think, but expect me to.

  Thanks for your kind thoughts, Dungbeetle.
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  I survied an heart attack. !!!!

  by rekless in

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  yes sir ree bob tail, i had a big one.

  i had four hours into my brand new job making $18.00 and hour which would have topped out at $25.00 in two months when i got this quezzy feeling in my chest and became light headed and weak kneed.

  one of the girls looked out her office door and said, "do you need help?" raising my head off the the lumber pile i answered, "yes, i think i'm having a heart attack?" the pari-medics arrived within minutes ushered me to dessert spring critical care center in las vegas, nv.

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  detective

  Glad you are feeling better! welcome back!
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  Yet Another Pro-JW website good for laughs.

  by Reborn2002 in

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  http://www.stormpages.com/jwfriends/wwwboard/index.html .

  check out their disclaimer.. it jumped off the screen at me.. .

  terms of use: i agree to use the jw friends message board in a christian manner.

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  detective

  I liked this thread:
  "Are you jehovah's tool?"