Posts by LtCmd.Lore

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"The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character...

by digderidoo in

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...in all fiction:jealous and proud of it; petty, unjust, unforgiving, control freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty, ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevent bully.

", says richard dawkins in the god delusion p51.

he goes on to say, "those of us schooled from infancy in his ways can become desensitized to their horror".. would you agree?.

LtCmd.Lore

Or did you just mean your god?

Most awesome and compact response on the thread!

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Any introverts out there?

by wings in

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i took freedom frogs personality test yesterday, three times.

my lowest introverted score was 67. i think that borders on recluse.

are you comfortable with that part of yourself?.

LtCmd.Lore

Are you concerned that your idea of a good time is to drink wine and watch a movie ALONE?

Well actually, my idea of a good time is to drink Pepsi and work on the computer alone.

But yeah, I'm comfortable with that. Why not?

Lore - W.W.S.D?

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Any introverts out there?

by wings in

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i took freedom frogs personality test yesterday, three times.

my lowest introverted score was 67. i think that borders on recluse.

are you comfortable with that part of yourself?.

LtCmd.Lore

Being introverted doesn't necessarily meen that you want to be alone, it meens that you would prefer to have a FEW really good friends, instead a LOT of acquaintances.

So when at a party, an extrovert would rather make small talk with everyone at the party, and spend the bulk of the time talking with a large group of 4 or more. While an introvert would rather spend the whole time with only one or two other people.

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"The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character...

by digderidoo in

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...in all fiction:jealous and proud of it; petty, unjust, unforgiving, control freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty, ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevent bully.

", says richard dawkins in the god delusion p51.

he goes on to say, "those of us schooled from infancy in his ways can become desensitized to their horror".. would you agree?.

LtCmd.Lore

I find the most interesting thing about this topic is that the theists are perfectly prepared to retreat to a position of 'who are YOU to judge god'

Me too, especially since it's not a defence at all. It's basically an admission that his actions are indefensible, but you should ignore them anyway.

The question indicates that it's somehow MY fault, that I'm just too proud to serve god. And that I should be less arrogant, and more submissive and obedient. I should submit to gods logic and morality, even though I don't understand it, even though I CANNOT understand it.

But the real issue is, what if it's not gods actions at all? That's the thing about trusting god, you're actually not trusting god at all, you're trusting men. The men who wrote the scriptures, the men who translate them, the prophets, the apostles and the preachers. THEY are the ones who are saying: "This is what god says, trust god. God says so."

How do I know it's actually god speaking, or his actions? I only have mens word for it.

So when the theist says: "Who are you to judge God?" he's actually saying: "Who are you to judge me?"

"Submit to my interpretation, and my opinion about god.God commands you too."

So if you want to say: "Who are you to judge god?" I do not need justification to cast my judgements. It's this god that you speak of, your god is demanding that I obey it, so it's his responsiblity to explain himself. If he doesn't, then I am under no obligation to trust ~~him~~ you.

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Lore - What.Would.Satan.Do?

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May have just opened can of worms - posted on a spirit world forum

by feenx in

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as i'm sure many of us ex dubs do i have had tremendous fear, anxiety, curiosity and overall need for answers about spirits.

we all learned the same shite.

any spirits are demons.

LtCmd.Lore

Try being sceptical.

The general consensus is that sceptics are magically immune to all forms of paranormal influence, including demons and god. So even if they do exist, at least you can rest at ease.

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Online games

by RollerDave in

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ok, here's a safer topic.. what is with people who can live their entire life in an online game?.

i have an ex who submerged herself in world of warcraft and insisted on talking about characters, places, events, and items from in-game as if they existed in the real world.. she would start off telling me she was going someplace to do something, and in the end it would be 'wait a minute, this is all in-game?!?'.

then i'd be all exasperated that she'd wasted my time.. she even tried to leave her husband and child for some guy from texas who 'fell in love' with her avvie on star wars galaxies!.

LtCmd.Lore

All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players:
They have their exits and their entrances;
And one man in his time plays many parts...

Life is whatever you want it to be, if you want your life to be an adventure RPG, that's fine. Who's to say that your flesh and blood relatives and friends are any more 'real' or even worthwhile than your friends online avatars, or even entirely fictional characters.

You co-workers are just playing the part. They act like professionals, but they're really not, when they're alone they act completely different then when they're around you. They think what they want, and say something completely different. The same goes for your parents, friends and enemies. Maybe no-one is ever truly themselves, except in their own mind and dreams, and maybe, just maybe, in the anonymity of the internet. Sure, it might not be their real name, or gender, or age, or race, or home planet. But I'll bet that the anonymity allows them to show more of their REAL personality then they ever would face-to-face.

I'm not saying that online games are more or less worthwhile than "real life". I'm saying that your "real" friends are probably a lot less real than you think.

Lore - W.W.S.D?

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Evolution is a religious teaching

by lrkr in

i kid you not.

page 16 of 1/1/08 wt.

"although evolution is usually presented in scientific language, it is really a religious doctrine.".

LtCmd.Lore

OK, now you're just making me smile,

which I appreciate because my daughter just broke up with her boyfriend right here in the living-room while I have been carrying on this debate.

Apples to oranges, but I admire your tenacity.

Thanks, I'm just bored and looking for something interesting to type about...

What is it that limits them and who set that limit?

I think you're reffering to speciation. It's when two groups of the same species, evolve to a point that they can no longer mate with each other, then they are considered seperate species.

It's not really on topic so I'll just post links in case anyone's curious:

http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/0_0_0/evo_40

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Evolution is a religious teaching

by lrkr in

i kid you not.

page 16 of 1/1/08 wt.

"although evolution is usually presented in scientific language, it is really a religious doctrine.".

LtCmd.Lore

The problem with that is that germ theory can be put under a microscope, observed to be happening in the here and now

Have you personally ever seen a germ in a microscope? Or do you have faith that you would if you tried it?

How do you know the microscope works properly? Did you build the microscope yourself? Or do you simply have faith that it portays an accurate picture?

So you saw something in a microscope, how do you know it causes diseases? Do you have faith based on what the scientists tell you? Or did you actually observe the germ infecting the body

How did the germ get IN the body? You think the sick guy just HAPPENED to inhale it or get it in a cut? That sounds like it would take a lot of faith.

Remember, it's just a theory. And it has its holes, how do you explain the common cold? Germ theory fails miserably.

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Evolution is a religious teaching

by lrkr in

i kid you not.

page 16 of 1/1/08 wt.

"although evolution is usually presented in scientific language, it is really a religious doctrine.".

LtCmd.Lore

a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith

Well, using that definition, I suppose accepting evolution COULD be considered religious.

But only if germ theory is as well.

It attempts to explain a phenomenon, that is otherwise attributed to demons, curses from god, or evil spirits.And since I've never personally witnessed a germ infecting a human body, it requires a certain amount of faith to believe.

Faith in the scientists who seek out the evidence, faith in their interpretations of what they found, faith in their honesty and abilities...

Was it extremely improbable that a germ would spontaneously enter a body? That it would have the ability to reproduce and spread all on its own with no pesky or annoying God to cause it or remove it?

It is a simply mind boggling improbability, yet this is EXACTLY what you believe, and that my friend, takes FAITH.

So have at it, believe it if you want, I won't try to dissuade you, but don't fool yourselves that you have some kind of monopoly on reason and have stripped yourself of such nonsense as faith.

Unless you can shrink to microscopic size and see the germ with your own eyes instead of through microscopes, unless you can look over the shoulder of every scientist so you don't need to take his word for it, unless you can also see everything going on inside the body and see the stuff that he DIDN'T find or use your shrinking machine to see the germ before it infected the body...

You can't 'know' without a measure of faith.

That, my friends, makes it a religious teaching. Just another of the doctrines in the religion of secular humanism.

If Evolution is religion, so is Germ Theory.

Lore - W.W.S.D?

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Evolution is a religious teaching

by lrkr in

i kid you not.

page 16 of 1/1/08 wt.

"although evolution is usually presented in scientific language, it is really a religious doctrine.".

LtCmd.Lore

Oh, and speaking of ignoring inconvenient contradictory findings...

I didn't 'ignore' it, my dictionary, WordWeb, only has those two definitions.