Posts by jambon1

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Info For Newbies and Current Jehovah's Witnesses! Please Read!

by mentallyfree31 in

example: gravity is real.

because if 607 bce is wrong, then so is 1914 and 1918 and 1919. very simple.

so if we cannot trust secular research, then we can definitely discard the date of 607 bce.

jambon1

Spot on when it comes to all of these points.

I remember arguing with myself in my mind, at the point when I wasn't ready to exit the JW's. It was mental torture trying to go round & round in circles and knowing that there is no logical answer to these points. It became impossible to live the lifestyle of a JW when I knew in my heart that it was all wrong.

PS - the point about the Chinese children was something that went round & round in my mind. No matter how individuals tried to soften the matter or make it sound reasonable, the fact remained that I was worshiping a god that was going to literally slaughter billions of decent people. Men, women & children. It's hideous.

J

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Sister in my Congregation claims Jehovah always answers her prayers....including her new skirt and shoes for $20 bucks???

by Witness 007 in

to show you how dumb and shallow my congregation is a one of our "deeper" sisters claimed in field services that "jehovah answers all my prayers...like last week i wanted a new skirt and shoes for field service but only had $20 dollars....and would you believe i found them!!!

now i for one though well, why didn't you pray or the oil pipe in the mexican gulf to dry up...or food for the poor in haiti.

other pioneers tell of vegetables falling off trucks just when they had nothing for dinner???

jambon1

This sort of thing always really pissed me off.

It's worth remembering that all these experiences of people getting 'gifts' of £33.65 which came in the form of a gas rebate which was the exact amount needed to do a repair on their pissy little car are experiences of Jehovah actually deliberately 'stepping in' & 'taking action' on behalf of one of his people. You don't get any more direct than that.

So if he can do this sort of thing which enables some shithouse to go around banging on empty houses for 70 hours a month, why can't he 'step in' & help a poor little 6 year old who is being abused senseless by some sick paedophile in the congregation?

I didn't want to worship a god like that.

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Most people who are not JW's live with out moral restrain! All who have left the "Truth" regret it. June 15th WT

by life is to short in

in the june 15th wt it says on page 9 i will just write it out as it is to hard and unbelievable to preface this.

so here it is.. "many who today are members of the christian congregation can tell you that before learning of and adopting jehovah's righteous standards, they lived without moral restrain.

yet, they were unsatisfied and unhappy.

jambon1

The theory that everyone outside the JW organisation are miserable must lead to a lot of conflict in the mind of the JW.

I know it's true here locally that our neighbours, worldly friends & family are all enjoying life. Working, making friends, taking care of family, going on holiday etc. On the other hand, the congregations of JW's are an utter mess. Lots of depression, in-fighting, lack of love, frustration etc, etc.

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Prince talks about Chemtrails/Prophecy/United Nations on TV

by whereami in

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this guy has really turned into a nut.

all the jw's are all saying he made such a good witness in this video.. .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoguqxrxpts.

jambon1

That is absolutely priceless.

What an arsehole.

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Stayed up all night, see it is a cult now.

by gutted in

i really needed to find a place to write this as i don't believe i can talk with anyone else about my account, perhaps it is similar to a lot of yours.. last night for whatever reason i said i would go online and look up information on jws.

i have been raised as a jw all my life and baptized the last few years.

i looked at www.freeminds.org and www.sixscreensofthewatchtower.com and couldn't believe how easily the whole of my lifes teachings were refuted.. i can't stop my brain from running, bs just in regards to theology alone (1914, paradise earth, celebrations etc.

jambon1

Welcome to the board.

You'll get plenty of good advice so I won't bother adding.

Your situation sounds like you had a bit of a lightbulb moment. Beware that it will not be easy for to keep up a fascade in the org. I frankly don't know how anyone does it. I appreciate that people just have to do what they have to do though.

All the best with your journey.

J

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The Jehovahs Witnesses are obsessed with sex

by jambon1 in

why are so many christian religions obsessed with other peoples sex lives?.

they even feel comfortable talking about it in a 'public meeting' when children are present.. does it not point toward an unhealthy deviancy in their mentality?.

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jambon1

Why are so many christian religions obsessed with other peoples sex lives?

They even feel comfortable talking about it in a 'public meeting' when children are present.

Does it not point toward an unhealthy deviancy in their mentality?

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Post some beautiful landscape pics here

by asilentone in

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jambon1

Edinburgh

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The point in time when I realised that I would one day no longer be a Jehovahs Witness

by jambon1 in

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this was after my 'honeymoon' period of being a new jw.

yet, it was still a couple of years before i actually left.. i remember sitting in the kh listening to the meeting & my mind wandered.

i started looking around the congregation.

jambon1

This was after my 'honeymoon' period of being a new JW. Yet, it was still a couple of years before I actually left.

I remember sitting in the KH listening to the meeting & my mind wandered. I started looking around the congregation. Of course, being fairly active in the cong, I knew everyones business.

It dawned on me that around 70% of the congregation (and that is being kind) were depressed or just plain miserable. Many were on anti-depresants. In one way or another people were not positive, well rounded out, happy people. There was deep rooted problems & I knew it was the same in other congregations.

Then I started to see the divides everywhere. This one didn't like that one. This person had fallen out with that person 20 years ago & it was still an issue. This family were not talking to that family. That elder didn't see eye-to-eye with those 2 elders who were good mates together. The pioneers never really liked working together. Etc, etc.....

And I thought; Why would I want to bring anyone from the world into this organisation to be part of this misery?

It was the thin end of the wedge. As soon as I was thinking along these lines, I knew it was the end for me.

Anyone else feel the same?

J

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I just put a bullet in the head of....

by AK - Jeff in

....my final jw relationship.. i did it.

i killed the relationship.. my cousin rick and i had been inseparable as jw's.

rick is five years my junior, and in many ways i tried to look out for him like a little brother when we were younger.. i have wrestled with an on again/ off again attempt to stay in touch with rick since i left jw's.

jambon1

I feel you have done the right thing.

In your last comment there, you put it so well regarding their inability to see even a vague outline of reality. This is what has become so clear to me in recent weeks. It truely astounds me when you hear some of the remarks that JW's make & even worse, what is published in their literature. They have put themselves in their own world which is so far removed from reality. It must be difficult for them to reconcile what they are taught at the KH with what they actually see in the real world.

I had a close JW friend remark to me recently that 'they ARE the only ones who are preaching what the bible says'. And she really believes that.

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The JW view of world/personal events is repulsive, unkind & just plain offensive

by jambon1 in

on 9/11, an elder: it's sad but exciting!on a loved one dying: we can cope far better with this due to the resurection.on the tsunami, an elder: if they think this is bad, wait untill they see what happens at armageddon (smiling).on armageddon, an elder: i want to be able to see the people dying.on execution at god's hands, a pioneer: it'll put them out of their misery.on the swine flu virus, a pioneer: it'll mean less people for jehovah to kill at armageddon.on the birth of my daughter, a prominent elder: be carefull not to fall into the trap of 'baby worship'on the death of my non jw grandmother, an elder: be carefull at the funeral not to become involved in false worship (don't sing my grans favourite hymn)on the topic of my non jw sisters wedding, the po: if it falls on the weekend of the convention, you should make your stand & not go to the wedding.there is, of course, a normal response to each of these situations.

there is a human response.

one that is touched by the tragedy.

jambon1

On 9/11, an elder: It's sad but exciting!
On a loved one dying: We can cope far better with this due to the resurection.
On the tsunami, an elder: If they think this is bad, wait untill they see what happens at armageddon (smiling).
On armageddon, an elder: I want to be able to SEE the people dying.
On execution at god's hands, a pioneer: It'll put them out of their misery.
On the swine flu virus, a pioneer: It'll mean less people for jehovah to kill at armageddon.
On the birth of my daughter, a prominent elder: Be carefull not to fall into the trap of 'baby worship'
On the death of my non jw grandmother, an elder: Be carefull at the funeral not to become involved in false worship (don't sing my grans favourite hymn)
On the topic of my non jw sisters wedding, the PO: If it falls on the weekend of the convention, you should make your stand & not go to the wedding.

There is, of course, a normal response to each of these situations. There is a human response. One that is touched by the tragedy. Moved to joy by a happy event. Grief at the loss of a loved one. And pity for those who are suffering.

I never really saw too many normal responses in my time as a JW.

Jehovahs Witnesses - A religion for unkind, unloving, inconsiderate arseholes.