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  Who is easier to indoctrinate, men or women?

  by kneehighmiah in

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  from purely anecdotal evidence, i believe women are more indoctrinated on average.

  i can openly disagree with the governing body with men and it results in a discussion however, most women i've talked to have immediately shut me down by ending the conversation.

  the only person currently shunning me is a woman.

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  Shador

  You're examining a flawed sample. Remember that in JW-land the women are taught to be subserviant.

  I expect if there were some kind of amazon-like cult out there, you would find just the opposite.
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  Some vs Many

  by Londo111 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it is interesting how the watchtower uses these two words.

  for instance, the word some is often used to minimize, and many used to maximize.

  and yet, it is so unspecific that some might be a greater quantity than many, yet the mind doesnt process these words this way.. for instance, if it is a failed prediction or a changed teaching, they might say, some believed... when it fact some means most or all, because this was food at the proper time coming from gods channel through the watchtower.

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  Shador

  WT loves those ambiguous words.
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  I want to grow my hair back out!

  by onlyastory in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a few months prior to baptism i had shoulder length hair which i loved and had wanted ever since i was a child.

  i remember sitting with an elder during a bible study and asking him point blank if i 'had' to cut my hair.

  whilst the answer was given slightly awkwardly the answer was a no, "there are no rules that say you have to cut your hair".

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  Shador

  You will, indeed, be passed over for "privileges" if you have long hair (or a beard). Although there is nothing in the Bible against such (Maybe 1 Cor. 11:14, but I don't really think that was intended as a grooming rule).

  Just like many other things the WTBTS teaches, not from the Bible, just pulled out of their ass.

  I would before have said you can't be DFd for it, but this "brazen conduct" thing has given the elders very wide latitude on DFings now.
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  WT's Crazed Obsession!

  by JW GoneBad in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i have recently read for the umpteenth time the 4 gospel accounts.

  what caught my attention this time around was how many times jesus makes mention of the endeared expression father (with f in caps) when referring to his god as recorded by matthew, mark, luke and john.. what was also interesting by comparison is how little jesus actually makes reference to his father on a first name basis (jehovah) in these four books.. note my findings with the help of the comprehensive concordance:.

  jehovah: matthew 11 times mark 8 times luke 26 times john 4 times (total 49 times).. father: mathew 43 times mark 4 times luke 21 times john 119 times (total 187 times).. .

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  by Jesus' time it is likely that the correct pronunciation of YHWH was lost.

  True. However, if you accept the premise that Jesus existed as a divine being before coming to earth (not that I do), he certainly would have known how to say it. And it certainly wasn't Jehovah.

  And of course, as mentioned, If Jesus used that name so much, why did none of his supposed followers write it down? Instead they used Θέος and Κύριος. The name they spread was that of Jesus.

  Personally, I wish they had been a little less zealous about that.
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  Who Are Your Past Circuit Overseers? It's a small world..

  by mentallyfree31 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  who were your past circuit overseers?

  i'm sure a lot of us actually know mutual people, as the co's relocate all over the country.. here's a few from the southeast us: (let me know if you recognize any names and post yours too please...).

  ellwood johnson (new york/philadelphia area for several years also).

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  Shador

  @ Londo

  Basically I remember his gripe boiling down to 2 things:

  1. It has a sex scene.

  2. It's basically a woman telling the story of how she had an affair. That her husband was a dick does not justify it (WT view).

  I don't really know. I never saw the movie even to this day. There's easier ways these days to see tits than sitting through a 2-1/2 hour movie, and really that would be the only reason I would watch it.
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  Why the New World Bible Translation is special

  by pixel in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  page 4, 2014 yearbook .

  jehovah used his own spirit-begotten sons to provide the original new world translation.

  (rom.

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  Shador

  Now, y'all shouldn't make fun of the RNWT like that. It's not stupid, it's just "special".
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  Who Are Your Past Circuit Overseers? It's a small world..

  by mentallyfree31 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  who were your past circuit overseers?

  i'm sure a lot of us actually know mutual people, as the co's relocate all over the country.. here's a few from the southeast us: (let me know if you recognize any names and post yours too please...).

  ellwood johnson (new york/philadelphia area for several years also).

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  Shador

  @Found Sheep - yep. And he has a personal crusade against "Titanic".

  I see some others have had Mallett. Indeed, Londo, he was quite the "rock star". I remember at my second Pious-sneer school, the man had the unmitigated gall to more or less complain about getting free suits and things from "the friends", stating that it would be better to give COs money instead, if you wanted to give something. Then they can buy their own suits, ones that "fit their style".
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  Who Are Your Past Circuit Overseers? It's a small world..

  by mentallyfree31 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  who were your past circuit overseers?

  i'm sure a lot of us actually know mutual people, as the co's relocate all over the country.. here's a few from the southeast us: (let me know if you recognize any names and post yours too please...).

  ellwood johnson (new york/philadelphia area for several years also).

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  Shador

  Lessee. I can't remember all of them. Back in VA, only Friedman stands out in my mind (he was supposedly "annointed" and he taught the first time I went to Pious-sneer School). Here in SC, I remember Clayton Larken, Melvin Mallett (taught at my 2nd Pious-sneer School), and now Jim Roundtree. I'm sure there were others, but I can't recall them.
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  You Might be a Jehovah's Witness if . . .

  by sizemik in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  you might be a jehovah's witness if .

  you know when nisan 14 is but you forget you own birthday.

  you wash windows for a living but you own five suits.

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  Shador

  if you change the radio station when a xmas song comes on.

  Eh, when they play 'em for a month or more straight, you don't have to be a Jdub to get tired of it right quick.
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  NASA's lost day

  by goddidit in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i stumbled across this old chestnut.

  i remember a jw telling me this when i was a kid, and he believed it.. i only recently found out how well known this is, and has been for some time.

  does anyone know which of the jw mags or books had it in?.

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  Shador

  They do not need, nor would it be wise to try to build faith on anything that cannot be proved to have a solid foundation.

  Such as, you know, the notion that the earth stopped rotating for nearly a full day, because some ancient dude needed to finish his genocide.