Posts by BizzyBee

however, after reviewing letters of family going back to wwii, it is fascinating to read what dad was doing on board the aircraft carrier in the pacific on any old day, what mom was cooking on her ever-steaming range, how i was dealing with the roller coaster of emotion at bethel [mom saved all my letters], how nana wrote that she would not study with the witnesses [per my request] but 'here are some mittens i knitted for you when you canvass new york with your magazines.

BizzyBee

You've still got it, CoCo.

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An Elder's honest opinion...saw this on another site...thoughts?

by MsGrowingGirl20 in

by "shadow elder".

before i express my opinion to the readers and contributors to this website (www.ex-jw.com), i would like to explain who i am and to present my bona fides as someone qualified to comment on this website and jehovah's witnesses in general.. first of all, i am an active jehovah's witness living just outside of new york city.

being a large metropolis, new york has many kingdom halls located within the city and several more in surrounding boroughs, counties, and suburbs.

BizzyBee

Acknowledging the many lies perpetrated the JWs and the WTBTS - how can he still consider this "the Truth"? He must be heavily burdened with cognitive dissonance.

Oh - one more thing. He gave way too much personal information. Unless he was fabricating the details, he could be getting a visit from the gestapo brothers.

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I sure miss Bob

by sooner7nc in

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i had a friend named bob.

he was a damned wonderful person and i loved him very much, still do as a matter of fact.

thyroid cancer took him about 6 years ago and i count myself as lucky for the short time we got to spend and work together.

BizzyBee

Sounds like ol'Bob was a real pistol.

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Dualism, Rene Descartes, and Philosophy of the Mind

by frankiespeakin in

are mind and matter the same if not how can they intereact?

dualism says they are different,, who is watching in our inner theater?

who hears the sounds from the ears, who or what does that?

BizzyBee

I read Descartes Bones last year which gives a fascinating and illuminating account of his life, the French Revolution, religion vs. science and his life post-death. Highly recommended.

http://www.amazon.com/Descartes-Bones-Skeletal-History-Conflict/dp/B004JZWLZY/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1333071948&sr=1-1

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When was the last time you cried and why?

by usualusername in

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the last time i cried was about 5 weeks when i attempted suidice.. .

what was the last event that made you shed a tear?

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BizzyBee

March 17, 2012. Listening to a choir (on the radio) sing "O Danny Boy." Not connected to anything except the mournful words and music. It is about a father seeing his son off to war - and when his son returns, "If I am dead as dead I well may be" he will know his son is walking above his grave, and saying, "I love you" and his rest will be warmer and sweeter for it til his son joins him.

Pure sentiment - a great release.

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Interesting discussion of JWs going on at Daily Kos

by BizzyBee in

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someone started a thread about jumping ugly with jws who woke her up ringing her doorbell on a saturday morning.. then this thread was started by an ex-jw defending (or setting straight) misconceptions about jws and politics:.

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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/03/25/1077510/-some-facts-about-and-a-partial-defense-of-jehovah-s-witnesses#comments.

BizzyBee

I like to see those with an uninformed, but tolerant POV about JWs get a glimpse into the reality of the cult. Couple of comments from ex-JWs (and a shout-out for JWN):

- - - - As a child, my JW family tried to convert me (13+ / 0-)
        
        Numerous times. Against my Roman Catholic parents' wishes.
        As a teenager and adult who ultimately chose to voluntarily attend their "bible studies", this was-and-is the M.O.:
        1) Go out on "field service"(door-to-door proselytizing)
        2) Try to establish a bond with the "householder"
        3) Suggest a "bible study" with Watchtower material (never just the Bible alone)
        4) Get the "study" to convert to through denigration of their current religion and love-bombing at the Kingdom Hall.
        It is all about conversion. Nothing else. For the rank-and-file, that is.
        The more "studies"(past converts and potential converts), the more bragging rights a publisher (active JW) has. And brag about it they do.
        If anyone wishes to know more about the conversion practices of JWs, a great website to consult is Jehovahs-Witness.net/.
        I like to keep up on the JWs, because it is a dangerous cult, and I still have family members that are still in it.
        
        Technically this is true and sounds benign however (3+ / 0-)
        
        it leaves out the very real harm done by the Jehovah's Witness religion. Its adherents are literally brainwashed from a very young age into a world-view that forbids independent thought, secular education beyond high school, and friendships with non-believers. It restricts employment, leisure pursuits and auto-didactic curiosity.
        Furthermore, their blood-transfusion policy has needlessly denied many people, mostly youngsters, the opportunity to access medical care that likely would save lives threatened by disease and accidents resulting in thousands of deaths.
        Most of all, however, it has utterly and heartlessly destroyed family relationships because of unrelenting sanctions against association with non-believers, whether mothers, fathers, children, grandparents, spouses, and siblings through the practice of "shunning."
        Depression, suicides, pedophilia and alcoholism are rampant. Many, many, many JWs are "in" and going through the motions only because they do not want to lose the fellowship of their families.
        Once you are "in" you cannot leave without severe consequences, which are not revealed until it is too late to have second thoughts.
        I speak from first hand experience. Please do not soft-pedal the evil of this cult.

I was rasied as a witness as well. (3+ / 0-)

this part;
(There is a whole lot of convoluted explanation about this that I do not care to go into.)
made me lol. that shit about living forever aint logical. It don't work.
I left "the truth" at age 16 when my mother kicked me out of the house for willfully disobeyed her orders to not play basketball after school with the "worldly kids".
She packed my clothes up in garbage bags, and dropped me off at my fathers house.
I was so bitter about this, that I didn't talk to her for over 10 years. We were a very close-knit family, so this was a very painful thing for me at the time. Still is. I was cut off from everybody I knew.
She ended up drinking herself to death, dieing at age 54 of liver failure.
My step-dad was recently disfellowshipped for having premarital sex with a women that he fell in love with. I think it was the first time I ever saw him truly happy was when he was with that women. My Mother was awful to him.
Just thinking about this stuff makes me bitter and angry.
I'ts been 22 years since I've been to the Kingdom Hall.

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Wife of Mass Murderer Robert Bales Shows Cognitive Dissonance

by RayPublisher in

wife of the army sgt robet bales, the one that killed 17 afghan civilians, was interviewed.

she steadfastly maintains that he couldn't possibly have done it.

"nothing could change my mind that he did not do this.

BizzyBee

Part of shock is denial, but Bales admitted the act (leaving out the part about killing children), so she is going to have a tough time remaining in denial for very long.

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Interesting discussion of JWs going on at Daily Kos

by BizzyBee in

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someone started a thread about jumping ugly with jws who woke her up ringing her doorbell on a saturday morning.. then this thread was started by an ex-jw defending (or setting straight) misconceptions about jws and politics:.

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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/03/25/1077510/-some-facts-about-and-a-partial-defense-of-jehovah-s-witnesses#comments.

BizzyBee

Someone started a thread about jumping ugly with JWs who woke her up ringing her doorbell on a Saturday morning.

Then this thread was started by an ex-JW defending (or setting straight) misconceptions about JWs and politics:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/03/25/1077510/-Some-facts-about-and-a-partial-defense-of-Jehovah-s-Witnesses#comments

BizzyBee

Posts by BizzyBee

As a child, my JW family tried to convert me (13+ / 0-)

Technically this is true and sounds benign however (3+ / 0-)

I was rasied as a witness as well. (3+ / 0-)