hi gov body,
here's what i would like to hear you say.
"all reports of molestation, no matter who they are from, will imediatly........imediatly........ be turned over to the police.
if you do that, ......the police will protect the child from the parent".
jehovah's name, the very name associated with jehovah's witnesses is being disgraced, trampled upon as never before in the organization's history!!.
in the past jehovah's witnesses have been reproached for standing up in defense of jehovah and his word.
jehovah's name was sanctified at all costs and it appears from their history books that jehovah was making a good name for himself by means of their integrity.
island woman has food at the proper time.
when i first started figuring out things weren't as they should be, i thought the organization was going apostate.
this is my first post and i offer thanks for all of your thoughts, some of which are almost as crazy as my own.. i ran away at age 14 to escape and have never looked back.
the decision was difficult but nothing by comparison to the trauma which followed.
this organization is "evil" in all of its ways and should not be allowed to grow.
i found out about malawi too,///////// man was i mad.
the gov body are just a bunch of haughty murderers, with bible knowledge.
i don't know if anyone has posted on this already but there is a new press release at http://www.jw-media.org/releases/default.htm?content=bg_molestation.htm that defines the current jw policy and i believe it has taken a step in the right direction!.
although they have not literally changed it to require reporting to the authorities in all states, they have finally put into print the following: "additionally, the victim may wish to report the matter to the authorities, and it is his or her absolute right to do so.".
i am glad to see, straight from the wt, acknowledgement that the adults involved have every right to go to the police.
amac, i agree with you!!!!!...HAHAHAHAHA!
more will start going to the police./////// then the gov body will try to squelch that, cause that's what they are trying to avoid, media.
there are tons of jw molesters and rapists, and they can't have the media in on it, so somehow, they have to convince members not to call the police, even though they have a right to.
do you think they are capable of it?.......they have six million people convinced they are god's mouthpiece!
follow the link to wt official admission.. second to last paragraph contains the admission.. .
http://www.jw-media.org/releases/default.htm?content=bg_molestation.htm
francois,.....that was funny, a good point!
they claim to be god's mouthpiece, yet they are afraid to debate!!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
wait, these are modern times.....todays "god's mouthpiece" is different........ they need a lawyer present....HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
possibly the most lucent, well thought out and written comment i've ever read on a witness board.. from justjw's:.
from: ben sent: 29/05/2002 20:52 .
the safety of the children should come first.
sincere jws who have that kind of clear thinking, writing ability and heart, get canned fast......they speak out.
he is not a novice,.......he must be an ex.......posing as a jw, just to help the children, and doing a great job!...just my opinion
follow the link to wt official admission.. second to last paragraph contains the admission.. .
http://www.jw-media.org/releases/default.htm?content=bg_molestation.htm
hi insider, that was a nice article!!!!!
to bad it's just for appearances, isn't it?????
the oral law is alot different, and very abusive.
want to talk about the oral law?......the law that ~REALLY~ GOVERNS THE ELDERS?........you know, the law that is used during times of SPIRITUAL THEOCRATIC WARFARE....such as these days!
...i wonder if the judges in the jw molestation cases are going to want to know about the "ORAL LAW"?......and how it differs from the written policy.
let's see now, part of it was stated to bill bowen by the legal dept, in the phone call he made.
how was it put again?.........."if the molester says he didn't do it, just drop it, don't get yourself in a jam".........wasn't that what was said?
my mom (a jw) watched the dateline program.
i asked her the next day what she thought of it.
she told me that erica was not a jw and that is why they did not support her in court.
hey mikcrt,
you are damn good at changing the issue and side stepping.
are you on the gov body or something?
here to kinda sugar coat the horrible pedophile problem you are having????
you mentioned facts?.......hmmmm.......ya, lets talk about the victims that are going to "testify" in court, when they get the chance...... yes, mik, they are going to "testify" that the elders threatened to disfellowship them if they went to the police,,,,,,,,,,
sweet talk is cheap mikcrt,.........when they start TESTIFYING IN COURT,
your sweet talking lawyers won't be of much help.........sweet talk works good here, but i don't think in molestation cases the judge is going to like your sweet talk.
hey mikcrt,........ wasn't that tape of the legal dept telling bowen to "just drop it" if the molester said he didn't do it, neat!!!!!????..... hmmm, would you call that a FACT?
just wait, sweet talker, there will be more tapes, and more victims willing to testify that the elders theatened to disfellowship them if they went to the police........ you are going down.
let's add up the number 23,0000+ victims alone .
add at least one elder per victim (23,000 + 23,000= 46,000).
***23,000+ elders that our "wondering" why the society is lying.
go get um, oveja!!!!
i was thinking today about all the time i spent on the ministry.. walking down the street with my suit and briefcase ready to defend the truth.. i recalled some of the conversations i had , had.some of the bible studies i conducted, the talks i had given the groups i had taken.. i remmebered the way i defended my faith and belief in jehovah and the jehovahs witness organisation.. how much i must have believed it was the truth.. i spent 3 years as an auxillary pioneer and called on many thousands of people.. yet all along i was wrong.. every time i defened my beliefs i was wrong.. every talk i studied and prepeared long and hard for, i was wrong.. all the things i gave up for the truth i was wrong.. what an idiot.
what amazes me is how effective the gov body was on me.
here i was going door to door,(20yrs)......and no one could refute me!
it's not like i was hiding, believe me, i was willing to sit down and talk to ANYONE!!....... and yet i never met someone who could show me what i know "now"!........ i ran into a few ex-members, but none of them had anything worth while to tell me....... and they were usually irate.
it wasn't till i was so abused by the corruption going on, that i finally figured it out, all by myself, by realizing that jws fit the description of the pharisees, or evil slave, more than anything else......... they have bible knowledge, not love.
no wonder jesus didn't go around teaching bible knowledge, he said you will recognize them by their "love".
