Posts by crawdad2

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Dateline

by Jacinta in

my mom (a jw) watched the dateline program.

i asked her the next day what she thought of it.

she told me that erica was not a jw and that is why they did not support her in court.

the watchtower society doesn't INTENTIONALLY COVER-UP?.......yes it does!!!........umm, incase that wasn't clear enough, YES THEY DO!!!!
why would you say something like that to mislead everyone???????????

let's see now, greenlees, a gov body member.......was removed as a gov body member for inapropriate touching, and he was made a "special pioneer elder".......and sent to an unsuspecting new cong.
if i have the facts wrong, somebody please correct me.

jw elders are way better at concealing their dirt than catholics........jw elders have WAY WAY WAY MORE CONTROL.
members are silenced and punished for speaking out.

tell me all about how loving the elders were again,,,,,,,,you are making me sick...... a girl got repeatedly raped and these LOVING ELDERS PUT HER THROUGH HELL, WHILE THEY SUPPORTED THE RAPIST!!!

she had to go to the media and police, to get justice,,,,,,,cause these LOVING MERCIFUL ELDERS PUT HER THROUGH HELL.

none of them have any spirit or justice....tell me all about it.

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Morons.org: The Pedophile at Your Door

by mikepence in

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from http://www.morons.org/articles/2/1675.

the pedophile at your door.

by logorrhea.

crawdad2

arizona?........hmmmm......nice and hot yesterday, huh?
110...

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DATELINE VIEWERS BEWARE!!!

by 144thousand_and_one in

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to all those who watched the dateline episode regarding the handling of child molestation incidents by the jehovahs witnesses:.

your television is now demonized as it received signals from satan himself.

you must get rid of it immediately.

crawdad2

hey 144,

can i send you my computer too???...... can you fix my tv and my computer????......both of them keep doing what you just said!

will you send them back, after you fix them?.....i will pay postage.

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Why Be AlanF So Narcissistic

by non_trias_theos in

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alanf seem to suffer from ego centricity disorder.

people in thisn place have patted him on back too much it went to his head.

he think that cause he can shuffle a few figures and write terrible papers on evolution book that he ok. he needs humble self and quit taking praise from people.

crawdad2

non, i love you!!!!

hey!!!......you want to talk about humility???......ok!/// ..good subject.....

1......the gov body claims to be god's mouthpiece, with no credentials......just a long list of predictions that didn't come true!!!!....... is that humble?......or is it sooo haughty that it carries the death penalty? deut 18:20

these truths i present as +god's mouthpiece+. i admit to being the 'faithful and wise servant' foretold in matthew 24....watchtower 7/15/1906.......watchtower, 12/1/16

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JW RAPE

by crawdad2 in

the 16 yr old girl get's raped by a 26 yr old ministerial servant,.

so she goes to the elders about it.. the elders arrange a judicial committe meeting and listen to both sides of the story......... then they go to a room for five minutes and come back, and tell her that they are going to privately reprove both of them.........."furious", she asks what she is being reproved for, and they say "fornication".. they remind both of them to not gossip about it or tell anyone.. because it will bring reproach on jehovahs organization.. the girl, then goes to other elders, and appeals the elders decision, and complains that she got raped!!!

!.....she gets another committe meeting,,,,,they quickly come to the same decision and warn her to keep quiet,,,,,,,she goes to other elders.....they promise to help her...they believe her, ...days go by.........months go by...........she is in a meeting when they announce that brother rapist has been given a part on the assembly.........everyone claps........she goes back to the elders asking them how it is that he just got a part on the assembly, when he just raped her............they start reminding her to be submissive to the lead or they will take action,.....she can't keep quiet........they anounce that she has been reproved.........she starts speaking out against the whole body of elders,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,bingo, she is disfellowshipped for apostacy, and there is no value to her claims at all,,,,,,,,she was just an apostate fornicater, trying to smear a nice brother.....

crawdad2

want more theocratic reasoning???
~~~~~>>>>>>>>>JEHOVAH IS MAKING IT MANIFEST!!!<<<<<<<<~~~~~~

look, who is jehovah blessing?.....the girl or the brother?...jehovah is opening doors for brother rape, jehovah is giving him privileges, jehovah is blessing him, ...cause he is innocent!

look at the girl,.......the holy spirit is making it manifest,.....she is a murmurer, a rebel, speaking out against the body of elders......a fornicater,...........a trouble maker.

jehovah is pushing her out of his "clean organization".

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JW RAPE

by crawdad2 in

the 16 yr old girl get's raped by a 26 yr old ministerial servant,.

so she goes to the elders about it.. the elders arrange a judicial committe meeting and listen to both sides of the story......... then they go to a room for five minutes and come back, and tell her that they are going to privately reprove both of them.........."furious", she asks what she is being reproved for, and they say "fornication".. they remind both of them to not gossip about it or tell anyone.. because it will bring reproach on jehovahs organization.. the girl, then goes to other elders, and appeals the elders decision, and complains that she got raped!!!

!.....she gets another committe meeting,,,,,they quickly come to the same decision and warn her to keep quiet,,,,,,,she goes to other elders.....they promise to help her...they believe her, ...days go by.........months go by...........she is in a meeting when they announce that brother rapist has been given a part on the assembly.........everyone claps........she goes back to the elders asking them how it is that he just got a part on the assembly, when he just raped her............they start reminding her to be submissive to the lead or they will take action,.....she can't keep quiet........they anounce that she has been reproved.........she starts speaking out against the whole body of elders,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,bingo, she is disfellowshipped for apostacy, and there is no value to her claims at all,,,,,,,,she was just an apostate fornicater, trying to smear a nice brother.....

crawdad2

hi dazed,
it's a hypothetical simplified combination of several cases i knew about.
i, and everyone who was outraged, were reminded to be submissive to the lead, and stop speaking out against the body of elders.....wait on jehovah...

along with the reproof come the special needs talks from the platform, ....stop murmuring,(there was alot of murmuring) stop speaking out against the appointed lead...don't divide the cong,......wait on jehovah..
guess what, the murmuring didn't stop,.......more talks were given, and those speaking out the loudest were taken in the back room and questioned (me) as to if they were going to be submissive to "GOD'S VISIBLE LEAD"..........soon the victim is isolated, very few people want to get disfellowshipped over "her" problems, and she finds herself alone in her battle.

then, when you realize that brother rape had to be "recomended" by the body of elders, to get a talk on the assembly, and then you realize they are all in it together, even the district and circuit overseers,....cause they were both called by the rape victim.....and assured that justice would be done,//// just wait on jehovah.

after that, when you speak out, you are speaking out against the whole body of elders, and the circuit and district overseer....... want to talk to the gov body?.......guess who they are going to support?...they send a letter back to your local body of elders saying it might be in the best interests of the organization to disfellowship you, since you are questioning the authority of god's visible channel.

if she would have just called the police...

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JW RAPE

by crawdad2 in

the 16 yr old girl get's raped by a 26 yr old ministerial servant,.

so she goes to the elders about it.. the elders arrange a judicial committe meeting and listen to both sides of the story......... then they go to a room for five minutes and come back, and tell her that they are going to privately reprove both of them.........."furious", she asks what she is being reproved for, and they say "fornication".. they remind both of them to not gossip about it or tell anyone.. because it will bring reproach on jehovahs organization.. the girl, then goes to other elders, and appeals the elders decision, and complains that she got raped!!!

!.....she gets another committe meeting,,,,,they quickly come to the same decision and warn her to keep quiet,,,,,,,she goes to other elders.....they promise to help her...they believe her, ...days go by.........months go by...........she is in a meeting when they announce that brother rapist has been given a part on the assembly.........everyone claps........she goes back to the elders asking them how it is that he just got a part on the assembly, when he just raped her............they start reminding her to be submissive to the lead or they will take action,.....she can't keep quiet........they anounce that she has been reproved.........she starts speaking out against the whole body of elders,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,bingo, she is disfellowshipped for apostacy, and there is no value to her claims at all,,,,,,,,she was just an apostate fornicater, trying to smear a nice brother.....

crawdad2

here's what they do,

the 16 yr old girl get's raped by a 26 yr old ministerial servant,
so she goes to the elders about it.
the elders arrange a judicial committe meeting and listen to both sides of the story........
then they go to a room for five minutes and come back, and tell her that they are going to privately reprove both of them.........."furious", she asks what she is being reproved for, and they say "fornication".
they remind both of them to not gossip about it or tell anyone.
because it will bring reproach on jehovahs organization.

the girl, then goes to other elders, and appeals the elders decision, and complains that SHE GOT RAPED!!!!.....she gets another committe meeting,,,,,they quickly come to the same decision and warn her to keep quiet,,,,,,,she goes to other elders.....they promise to help her...they believe her, ...days go by.........months go by...........she is in a meeting when they announce that brother rapist has been given a part on the assembly.........everyone claps........she goes back to the elders asking them how it is that he just got a part on the assembly, when he just raped her............they start reminding her to be submissive to the lead or they will take action,.....she can't keep quiet........they anounce that she has been reproved.........she starts speaking out against the whole body of elders,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,bingo, she is disfellowshipped for apostacy, and there is no value to her claims at all,,,,,,,,she was just an apostate fornicater, trying to smear a nice brother.....

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Change the Edges, Move the Centre

by metatron in

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how do you find the centre of an object?.

by finding its edges.. change the edges and you've moved the centre.. dateline is an excellent start to moving the centre.

of the corrupt watchtower subculture.

crawdad2

hi met,

just my opinion, but,.....the pedohpile rape issue is just starting.
it's not a complicated issue,,,,,,,the general public understands what it is about.......it's not a doctrinal thing......there is no excuse for it.......and it's not accpeted in any society.

to bring other issues into it would not be as effective.

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Why Are People Here So Disrespectful At Times?

by Eutapro in

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eu has noticed that a number of persons making up this forum are guilty of showing disrespect to jehovah's witnesses.

some refer to jws as 'hovahs and others talk about kingdumb hells, all the time professing to follow christ.. some may justify their rude behavior by saying that jws themselves can be rude.

even if the charge is true, and eu is not really convinced that it is, why cannot ex-jws rise above the fray?

crawdad2

hi eu!!!!!!!

why does eu talk in the third person?..... is eu afraid to talk normal?....could it be that eu is not really eu???........because eu is brainwashed??

why does the gov body call eveyone on the planet except them, 'SATAN WORSHIPERS', and then wonder why they get called names, eu?.......does eu not understand that eu is in a cult?

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For Bill Bowen and Company, And Silentlambs

by Cassiline in

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many thanks.... most of the important things.

in the world have been .

accomplished by people .

crawdad2

i want to thank you too!...i know you did more work than i could possibly imagine.
and all the stress,,,,,,,,,omg!.........thank you!