that's one of the things that woke me up.
i kept seeing lying haughty hypocrites being appointed to be in positions of authority...... while the P.O. claimed the holy spirit appointed them.
i saw wicked commitee meeting decisions, and the elders claimed they were made by holy spirit, when i knew they were wrong.
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THE BIND THE GOV BODY IS IN
by crawdad2 inhere's the bind the gov body is in.......these are just my opinions.. to please the gen public, and to maintain a "righteous look", the gov body has to assure everyone that pedophiles and rapists will be reported to the police.. the problem;.......if they are reported to the police, the media will pick it up.
........and there are so many jw pedophiles, and rape victims, it's not just a few isolated cases.......the victims will then be questioned, and the truth about how bad the situation really is, will come out publicly.... all the details of how the elders knew about it for years and years, but allowed the abuse to continue, will come out in the courtroom.. it will all be documented........ even the gov body's secret instructions to elders will become an issue, and they will be in deep trouble.. their solution;...... keep jw pedophiles, child abuse, and rape cases out of court........at all cost!.....theocratic warfare!!!.
effect on children and rape victims; .....even more so than before, children reporting that a parent is repeatedly molesting them, will be silenced at all cost....elders not going along with this arrangement will be deleted....cold hearted brothers, loyal to the gov body will replace them.. even cases where guilt is proven will be silenced, pushed under the carpet, made out to be no big deal, for fear it ends up in a courtroom.. children will be imiediatly handed back over to the parent molester, and the molester will be instructed to make sure this young child is silenced, before anyone hears about it, and it brings reproach on jehovahs organization.
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THE BIND THE GOV BODY IS IN
by crawdad2 inhere's the bind the gov body is in.......these are just my opinions.. to please the gen public, and to maintain a "righteous look", the gov body has to assure everyone that pedophiles and rapists will be reported to the police.. the problem;.......if they are reported to the police, the media will pick it up.
........and there are so many jw pedophiles, and rape victims, it's not just a few isolated cases.......the victims will then be questioned, and the truth about how bad the situation really is, will come out publicly.... all the details of how the elders knew about it for years and years, but allowed the abuse to continue, will come out in the courtroom.. it will all be documented........ even the gov body's secret instructions to elders will become an issue, and they will be in deep trouble.. their solution;...... keep jw pedophiles, child abuse, and rape cases out of court........at all cost!.....theocratic warfare!!!.
effect on children and rape victims; .....even more so than before, children reporting that a parent is repeatedly molesting them, will be silenced at all cost....elders not going along with this arrangement will be deleted....cold hearted brothers, loyal to the gov body will replace them.. even cases where guilt is proven will be silenced, pushed under the carpet, made out to be no big deal, for fear it ends up in a courtroom.. children will be imiediatly handed back over to the parent molester, and the molester will be instructed to make sure this young child is silenced, before anyone hears about it, and it brings reproach on jehovahs organization.
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crawdad2
here's the bind the gov body is in.......these are just my opinions.
to please the gen public, and to maintain a "righteous look", the gov body has to assure everyone that pedophiles and rapists will be reported to the police.
the problem;.......if they are reported to the police, the media will pick it up. ........and there are so many jw pedophiles, and rape victims, it's not just a few isolated cases.......the victims will then be questioned, and the truth about how bad the situation really is, will come out publicly.... all the details of how the elders knew about it for years and years, but allowed the abuse to continue, will come out in the courtroom.
it will all be documented........ even the gov body's secret instructions to elders will become an issue, and they will be in deep trouble.their solution;...... keep jw pedophiles, child abuse, and rape cases out of court........AT ALL COST!.....THEOCRATIC WARFARE!!!
effect on children and rape victims; .....even more so than before, children reporting that a parent is repeatedly molesting them, will be silenced at all cost....elders not going along with this arrangement will be deleted....cold hearted brothers, loyal to the gov body will replace them.
even cases where guilt is proven will be silenced, pushed under the carpet, made out to be no big deal, for fear it ends up in a courtroom.
children will be imiediatly handed back over to the parent molester, and the molester will be instructed to make sure this young child is silenced, before anyone hears about it, and it brings reproach on jehovahs organization.
just my opinion, ........ if you think i'm wrong, i would like to hear it, .....i'm afraid alot of children are going to start disapearing... they are walking talking evidence.
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Lofty & Judgemental?Are you on DAN FITZWATE...
by LFitzwater ini brought this to the top of the board because i feel its getting lost and i want to have better access to respond.
my response is at the bottom.
this is a post i received on page 3 of child abuse under dan fitzwater exposed on dateline.... ("laurie, i can truly appreciate your feelings of digust for this man, and feeling as though he is not repentant.
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hi l fitzwater,
i don't like anyone telling me i have to forgive someone who i consider devious, either.
i'll forgive them when i decide to.
focusing of forgiving the pedophile is just a side-step, on the part of the gov body.
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GB has dealt treacherously with Younger Anointed!
by IslandWoman inthe younger anointed (those who came in after 1935) in the organization are treated by the gb as both a whore and a beloved wife.. the whore: for years they have published articles whose intent was to denigrate the younger anointed.
as a result many of these younger anointed ones have had to fight a spiritual uphill battle with their elders and circuit overseers because the watchtower paints them as falsely claiming spiritual union with the christ.. .
the beloved wife: yet, it is from this group of younger anointed that the gb has picked 5 members of the governing body!!
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gee island woman,
what's wrong with the gov body spiritually killing all of their brothers?
the wicked kings of isreal and judah used to kill all their own brothers, when they inherited the throne........you know, to make sure none of them would try to claim rights to the throne.you gotta keep the organization strong!
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Erica's case and neutrality
by Sadie5 inwhy were these brothers and sisters who supported the child molester even there, sitting on his side?
what happenned to christian neutrality and not taking sides?
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i loved it!!!!.......the whole cong there to support a known repeat peophile offender elder, in good standing, after getting caught.
it just goes to show you, .....being a "JW PEDOPHILE" is not that bad, it is way better than being a woman, a victim, seeking justice!
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when the TRUTH became lies
by hedonistixstar inmy family started to study when i was six years old.
a lady would come to our house and read us a book that had stories about the bible.
as i grew older i grew to like it and then is when i become very advocated to it.
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hi hedonistixstar,
i'm glad you posted your experience.
many people, even exjws, don't realize how corrupt judicial committe meetings are.and the appeal process.......hahaha......they are infuriated that you don't believe they had "holy spirit"...... they consider you "unrepentant", for not accepting their decision,........ so they get 3 of their close friends (elders).......to meet with you and render the same decision.
i hope you continue to post more of your experiences, to show everyone how bad and corrupt that organization really is.
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gb bs
by crawdad2 injw elders go over-board, they are used to being "ruthless", they are used to giving orders, and having complete submission from women......they are not qualified to handle rape or molestation cases.. their questioning of the victim can be a cruel torture, another traumatic experience, right after being raped.. now, when a young girl has just been raped, and the questioning goes towards exact details and evidence.........they may want to see evidence, the bruises.. she just got raped, and is in a state of shock!.
when they demand she show evidence,....she is expected to comply.......it's a judicial commitee meeting, and she is expected to comply.. .
sorry about the post before i edited it.
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crawdad2
hi avengers,
there are all different kinds of cases coming forward........i'm just giving examples of what i know that some jw elders would do.........i hung around them........they don't all act that way, but the ones that do, get away with it.and now their victims are coming forward.
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gb bs
by crawdad2 injw elders go over-board, they are used to being "ruthless", they are used to giving orders, and having complete submission from women......they are not qualified to handle rape or molestation cases.. their questioning of the victim can be a cruel torture, another traumatic experience, right after being raped.. now, when a young girl has just been raped, and the questioning goes towards exact details and evidence.........they may want to see evidence, the bruises.. she just got raped, and is in a state of shock!.
when they demand she show evidence,....she is expected to comply.......it's a judicial commitee meeting, and she is expected to comply.. .
sorry about the post before i edited it.
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crawdad2
hi avengers,
these cases will come forward in court when the time comes,.......they don't have to answer to you.
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elders
by crawdad2 inin a jw judicial commitee meetings, the jw elders are expected to hand the 5 yr old child back over to the accused parents after the child confesses molestation........and pleads and crys to be kept safe.. she doesn't have 2 witnesses!.........so they give her back to the abusive parent, right after the committee meeting!!!!.
how fun for a 5 yr old child....her life is in danger, and she knows it, but the elders she trusted, hand her back over to the "abuser".
they tell her something about 2 witnesses..... then the bruses have to be explained......... she confesses she fell down...
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crawdad2
in a jw judicial commitee meetings, the jw elders are expected to hand the 5 yr old child back over to the accused parents after the child confesses molestation........and PLEADS AND CRYS to be kept safe.
she doesn't have 2 witnesses!.........so they give her back to the abusive parent, right after the committee meeting!!!!how fun for a 5 yr old child....her life is in danger, and she knows it, but the elders she trusted, hand her back over to the "abuser"
they tell her something about 2 witnesses....
then the bruses have to be explained......... she confesses she fell down...
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gb bs
by crawdad2 injw elders go over-board, they are used to being "ruthless", they are used to giving orders, and having complete submission from women......they are not qualified to handle rape or molestation cases.. their questioning of the victim can be a cruel torture, another traumatic experience, right after being raped.. now, when a young girl has just been raped, and the questioning goes towards exact details and evidence.........they may want to see evidence, the bruises.. she just got raped, and is in a state of shock!.
when they demand she show evidence,....she is expected to comply.......it's a judicial commitee meeting, and she is expected to comply.. .
sorry about the post before i edited it.
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crawdad2
jw elders go over-board, they are used to being "ruthless", they are used to giving orders, and having complete submission from women......they are not qualified to handle rape or molestation cases.
their questioning of the victim can be a cruel torture, another traumatic experience, right after being raped.now, when a young girl has just been raped, and the questioning goes towards exact details and evidence.........they may want to see evidence, the bruises.
she just got raped, and is in a state of shock!
when they demand she show evidence,....she is expected to comply.......it's a judicial commitee meeting, and she is expected to comply.sorry about the post before i edited it.