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  The Curious Case of Olin R. Moyle

  by RR in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  olin r. moyle was the society's attorney from about 1930 to 1939. he authored several of the society's legal publications.

  he later became increasingly disenchanted with the moral tone of bethel, especially the harsh and obscene language judge rutherford used (often in print) and what he considered to be excessive drinking there.

  when moyle could no longer tolerate the situation, he wrote a letter to rutherford with his complaints, rutherford responded by promptly expelling him and his wife from bethel.

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  cabasilas

  All I've seen are typed copies of Moyle's letters. It'd be interesting to see scans of the originals.
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  Max Hatton's 1960s study into the WTS chronology

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in the early 1960s, a jehovah's witness named max hatton was living and working in albany, a town on the southern coast of western australia.

  when he was challenged by sda geoff rogerson, who lived in the nearby township of denmark, about the watchtower society's neo-babylonian chronology, max investigated geoff's claims.. after four years of intensive research, max resigned his position as a "servant in the organisation".. max documented the result of his research, and his 77-page study is remarkable and deserves to be widely known.

  it is quite likely that the copies max and i have are two of very few copies that now exist.

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  cabasilas

  Thanks, Doug, for sharing this file with us! Its author evidently has done some great research. Even though it's a bit dated, its argumentation today is still forceful!
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  The Curious Case of Olin R. Moyle

  by RR in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  olin r. moyle was the society's attorney from about 1930 to 1939. he authored several of the society's legal publications.

  he later became increasingly disenchanted with the moral tone of bethel, especially the harsh and obscene language judge rutherford used (often in print) and what he considered to be excessive drinking there.

  when moyle could no longer tolerate the situation, he wrote a letter to rutherford with his complaints, rutherford responded by promptly expelling him and his wife from bethel.

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  cabasilas

  Seems like I read that the 1941 Convention adopted a resolution condeming Moyle. Has anyone else heard that? Is there a copy or recording of the resolution?
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  French Literature ... what say ye?

  by RR in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  my wife and her family are haitian, so they attended the french congregation.

  when i was a witness i was at the time interested in the old books and history of the faith.

  so in an attempt toi enlighten my in-law, i sought for old french literature.

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  cabasilas

  Mais, bien sur! Je les voudrais lire.

  (Hope that's right!) :)
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  Good Memories of Bethel: Fascati's Pizza!

  by cabasilas in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just want to celebrate one of my favorite eating haunts from my brooklyn days.... fascati's pizza on henry st.. here's a review online:.

  http://nymag.com/listings/restaurant/fascati-pizza/.

  it was just a few blocks from bethel and a favorite of most everyone.

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  cabasilas

  Back in the 70s, Mexican restaurants in New York were extremely rare. I remember going to Bohack's grocery store and buying a frozen TV dinner featuring enchiladas and cooking it in a toaster oven (which I think were technically illegal to have) to satisfy an urging for Southwest cuisine. It was lousy, of course, but brought back memories. It definitely was not the real enchilada!
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  Good Memories of Bethel: Fascati's Pizza!

  by cabasilas in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just want to celebrate one of my favorite eating haunts from my brooklyn days.... fascati's pizza on henry st.. here's a review online:.

  http://nymag.com/listings/restaurant/fascati-pizza/.

  it was just a few blocks from bethel and a favorite of most everyone.

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  cabasilas

  Just want to celebrate one of my favorite eating haunts from my Brooklyn days...

  Fascati's Pizza on Henry St.

  Here's a review online:

  http://nymag.com/listings/restaurant/fascati-pizza/

  It was just a few blocks from Bethel and a favorite of most everyone. I still remember running into Audrey Knorr as she was picking up a pizza to take home one Sunday night for her and Nathan.

  If I ever make it back to visit Brooklyn Heights again this is one stop I intend to make.
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  PDF documentation regarding 1975 prediction in WT publications

  by cabasilas in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i had a request for documentation of the watchtower societys statements regarding the year 1975. so, ive put these files up for downloading from a filesharing service.

  the first file contains the complete text of 3 issues of awake!

  26-35 (file is 12 mb):.

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  cabasilas

  You're welcome. Glad they can be of use.

  Please pass them around the JW world.
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  1882, The Day Dawn, or the Gospel in Type and Prophecy--PDF!

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  scroll down:.

  1882 the day dawn, volume 2--pdf!

  never posted before bookmarked searchable reduced john h. paton john henry paton.

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  cabasilas

  Thank you, Atlantis, for these files! As you noted, John Paton had a very strong influence over the early issues of Zion's Watch Tower until his break with Russell in 1881. The first edition of Day Dawn (1880) was mentioned several times in the Watch Tower and was the first book circulated by Russell and his group after the magazine started. The famous "Wanted 1,000 Preachers" article in the April, 1881 Watch Tower mentions the first edition of Day Dawn (along with the Watch Tower magazine and some tracts) as the message being circulated. Russell wrote:

  To those so situated that they can give one-half or more of their time exclusively to the work of the Lord, we have a plan to suggest. [We refer to those who have not families dependent on them for support-- both men and women,] viz: That you go forth into large or small cities, according to your ability, as Colporteurs or Evangelists, seek to find in every place the earnest Christians, many of whom you will find possessed of a zeal for God, but not according to knowledge; to these seek to make known the riches of Our Father's grace, and the beauties of His word, giving them tracts; and as a work of kindness and love to them, endeavor to sell them the "Day Dawn," or to take their subscription for the "Watch Tower," [or if interested, but too poor to purchase, presenting the same as a gift from God.]

  As few could afford to travel, pay their board and clothe themselves without some income, we propose to furnish the TRACTS and DAY DAWNS free, and to allow any such person to take subscriptions for the WATCH TOWER, using the money obtained from both of these sources, ("Day Dawn and Watch Tower,"-- the Tracts are free and must not be sold,) in defraying necessary expenses. Should your receipts be more than would be needed to pay expenses, (not at all probable,) you would be expected to make some returns to us.

  The second edition of Day Dawn (1882) was written after the break between Rusell and Paton and having this available will help researchers understand the differences that developed. It will also be helpful to have these other books too.

  For those who already have the first edition in PDF -- I note that the 1880 edition offered here by Atlantis is searchable. I downloaded it and found some great results from various searches. One that caught my eye was searching for "1844". Day Dawn compared the 30 year period between 1844 and 1874 as a "tarrying in the holy place." It helps to connect the Miller movement in 1844 with the movement begun by Barbour in 1873 and then continued by Russell and Paton in 1879.
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  My 1970s story on chronology

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is a snapshot of activities i am personally aware of during the 1970s relative to the wtss neo-babylonian chronology.

  it is not a discussion about the inaccuracy of their chronology.. .

  i joined the seventh-day adventist church in 1964. later in the 1960s, we were regularly visited at the door by jehovah's witnesses.

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  cabasilas

  Thanks, Doug, for this fascinating look at the development of the expose of the Watchtower's faulty chronology in the 70s. The work you and Bruce and others did back then was foundational for later research. And thanks for scanning these historical articles for all of us!
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  Does anyone have the audio of Franz quoting JFR "making an ass of myself"?

  by middleman in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i saw this somewhere sometime back but not quite sure where.

  if anyone has it, i would be very grateful and will give you a gold star lol.

  this quote was concerning the failed 1925 date.. .

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  cabasilas

  As far as I know, it was Karl Klein (in writing his life story) that quoted Rutherford saying that. It's in the Oct 1 1984 Watchtower. Klein says in a footnote in the article:

  Regarding his misguided statements as to what we could expect in 1925, he once confessed to us at Bethel, “I made an ass of myself.”

  Perhaps Franz cited this too? I don't know.