Posts by Severus

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Who are the Jonadabs? Why are they important?

by integ in

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i just found a copy of the book "paradise" by jf rutherford at a garage sale yesterday.

on the ifrst page he says the book is for the "jonadabs".. can someone tell me who they are and how they fit in to the great witness scheme of things?.

Severus

Jonadabs = anyone who has an earthly hope (instead of going to heaven).

"Jonadabs" is now an obsolete term replaced by "the great crowd" or "other sheep".

Thus most of the current 6 million JWs (minus about 8500 heavenly hopefuls) are "Jonadabs"

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New Light, I can't Wait.........

by zeroday in

jw
friends

the '2006 deliverance at hand" conventions are about to begin this month.

i can't wait to hear about the "new light".

any one have any insite or when we should hear the first whispers........ .

Severus

Myspace.com is hosted by Satan himself.

You heard it here first!

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A NEW Flock book has been released, with notes by a Presiding Overseer

by Elsewhere in

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friends

for several years there has been available a pay attention to yourselves and to the flock book in pdf and html format.

this book has proven to be extremely valuable in exposing the morally questionable activities of the watchtower society.

now we have a new version that is even more valuable because it contains the hand-written notes of a presiding overseer, some notes as recent as late 2005. these notes are frequently dictated to elders by a circuit overseer or district overseer in order to avoid liability (the wts can deny every giving such instructions).

Severus

is the actual book being passed on to an attorney who will be able to put it to good use?

Done.

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The Point of this Site?

by Samael in

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friends

forgive me if i sound rude or this question has been answered elsewhere, as i am a neophyte and discovered your site through google in my religious studies.

from reading the various posts it seems that this site serves nothing more than an iconoclastic purpose.

was your experience as jw's so traumatic that now you can but put forth such effort to daemonize the religion?

Severus

Please also think on the children of JWs who are indoctrinated in a bubble of reality and have no social choice but to join.

JW youth are a primary source of new baptisms and growth in developed countries.

Usually baptised as teens (sometimes as young as 8) they are now trapped in a cult that will disfellowship them from an insular social system. Since JWs are not encouraged to be friends with non-JWs this is a real threat to mental and emotional health.

JW youth are also more likely to browse the internet and locate sites such as this. That's a "point" to consider.

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Southern Food

by doodle-v in

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friends

just got back from atlanta yesterday, boy oh boy did i have an eatin good time!

grits, collard greens....biscuits and gravy... fried chicken...peach cobbler... sweet tea.

yuuuum.

Severus

Okay, I just had a heart attack...

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A NEW Flock book has been released, with notes by a Presiding Overseer

by Elsewhere in

jw
friends

for several years there has been available a pay attention to yourselves and to the flock book in pdf and html format.

this book has proven to be extremely valuable in exposing the morally questionable activities of the watchtower society.

now we have a new version that is even more valuable because it contains the hand-written notes of a presiding overseer, some notes as recent as late 2005. these notes are frequently dictated to elders by a circuit overseer or district overseer in order to avoid liability (the wts can deny every giving such instructions).

Severus

Good points VM44. Regarding:

Does this offer real protection? All that would have to be done in a court of law is to get two or three elders on the witness stand to testify that they were TOLD to write this in their flock books at the elder's school.
And for good measure, a couple of COs and DOs could be put on the stand to testify that THEY told the elders to write in the additional instructions in their booksword for word as they were told.

Have you heard of theocratic warfare? These elders, COs and DOs would gladly testify that their notes were their "opinion" if it meant saving the WTS. Don't expect to corner the WTS based on their own member's testimony.

Yes the Legal Department is sharp--but that's a double-edged sword.

The secret policies and Flock hand-written notes proves in itself the self-serving and double-handed practices of the WTS regarding child abuse and DF procedure.

The court-of-law and court-of-public-opinion are both served by the release of this book.

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Vicodin, the not so innocent addiction

by free2beme in

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friends

with the thing that happened with kennedy today, it got me to thinking about how many people i know who are addicted to vicodin.

they always think it is no big deal, as it is not meth, or any other well known and notorious drugs.

plus, in their mind, they label what they take as okay as it is not listed as illegal and doctors do give out the prescription.

Severus

Mary Jane was a sweet flirt, but Vicky is a bitch!

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A NEW Flock book has been released, with notes by a Presiding Overseer

by Elsewhere in

jw
friends

for several years there has been available a pay attention to yourselves and to the flock book in pdf and html format.

this book has proven to be extremely valuable in exposing the morally questionable activities of the watchtower society.

now we have a new version that is even more valuable because it contains the hand-written notes of a presiding overseer, some notes as recent as late 2005. these notes are frequently dictated to elders by a circuit overseer or district overseer in order to avoid liability (the wts can deny every giving such instructions).

Severus

Wasn't there a page in the book with lines to be filled in with the name of the elder, the date when he was issued the book, and (I think) the date he turned it in?

There is no formal page to sign or name the owner of the book. However, I do believe that the area containing the elder's name was removed because of privacy issues and the circumstances of its acquisition.

The best vouch for the handwritten notes is to compare with other Flock books. This would rend the veil of legal protection that the Society uses by instructing elders to write critical procedures in their own hand.

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Comments You Will Not Hear at the 5-7-06 WT Study

by blondie in

comments you will not hear at the 5-7-06 wt study (april 1, 2006 issue, pages 21-25) (baptism).

review comments will be in red.

wt material from today's wt will be in black.

Severus

Baptisms are so down. At the last assembly I attended (this year) the speaker was actually mentioned each of the names of the baptism candidates (8 total) in his talk!

Days gone by (ending in the 80's/early 90's) there would be 50+ baptisms at conventions and at least 20 at assemblies with various ages.

Now there are about 15-20 at conventions and 3-10 at assemblies with maybe one adult in the group, all else teens or preteens.

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Newbie question; Why do JW hypocrites PROVE that they're a cult?

by psycsnacha in

hello, i discovered this site yesterday and have been on it for hours!

i've been studying with jehovah's witnesses for 4 years and quite frankly love it.

a bit of background, i am a college educated young man (have a bs in psychology) and am currently a medical student.

Severus

1. It being prophesied that the gentile times would end and the last days would see some sort of rebirth of God's earthy people with an accompanying spread of the truth about God across the globe.

The problem with JW doctrine is that they use 607 BC as the fall of Jerusalem as a pivotal date for the calculation of 1914 as the "end of the gentile times".

JWs is the only group that claims 607, all other sources state 586/587. Much more information here: WTS and Chronology

Since this is critical to the entire doctrine of JWs and their world view it may serve you well to research this beyond the WT publications.

Good luck!