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small clews

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can any one give me their views on this.

the utterance of jehovah to my lord is: .

sit at my right hand .

John 16:13

for he will not speak of his own impulse,

The Holy Spirit cannot do anything other than God’s Will. It does not have it’s own impulse because it is Jehovah’s impulse.

but what things he hears he will speak,

The Holy Spirit does not need to be told what Jehovah’s Will is as it is his Will.

and he will declare to YOU the things coming.

Jesus was speaking to his disciples who were the anointed but this individual will declare to them (the anointed) the things coming. This makes it clear that Jesus was not referring to the anointed but another individual in the above lines.

Who is the ‘he’ that would declare to the Disciples (the anointed) the things coming?

If this is the Holy Spirit, the previous two lines prove it not to be the Holy Spirit.

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small clews

by truthseek in

can any one give me their views on this.

the utterance of jehovah to my lord is: .

sit at my right hand .

truthseek

Hi

I was born and raised in the truth so I understand and agree with the meanings of the words you have highlighted except the (son of man).

This to me undoubtedly means (someone whose physical father is a human).

Going back to the scriptures, when I read them with an open mind they seem to suggest to me, that the writers were of the opinion that the liberator will be returning to us on earth.

For example (that he may >>>send forth<<< the Christ appointed for YOU whom heaven, indeed, must hold within itself >>>until <<<the times of restoration) and (go subduing in the midst of your enemies).

Where will Jesus’ enemies be during the times of restoration?

I know you can explain all this but things fit far better if you imagine the idea of Jesus returning to earth as the son of man.

Obviously I have not based my opinions on just these scriptures alone, there are many more like this. For example

John 16:13 However, when that one arrives, the spirit of the truth <not the holy spirit>, he will guide YOU into all the truth, for he will not speak of his own impulse, but what things he hears he will speak, and he will declare to YOU < the anointed> the things coming.

Please think seriously about what this scripture is saying, do’s it sound like the Holy Spirit is being described here? And also ask your self; is it like Jesus to intentionally speak in such a confusing way without the need? Also if he knew that his use of the word HE here would be used as the basis for belief in the Holy ghost part of the trinity, he would have avoided giving Satan some very useful ammo.

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small clews

by truthseek in

can any one give me their views on this.

the utterance of jehovah to my lord is: .

sit at my right hand .

truthseek

Psalms 110 is a very well known scripture.

But what you believe colours your interpretation

I have read this scripture without any preconceptions and it doesn’t seem to say to me what I have been persuaded to believe by the watchtower.

Also when you compare it to the apostle Peter’s explanation of the scripture Acts 3:20 this gives extra wait to my argument.

Like the Bereans who “daily” searched the Scriptures.—Acts 17:11. we must be aware that the watch tower publications are written by imperfect men that admit to making mistakes.

Therefore we must avoid following the herd, safety in numbers and all that, and make sure of all things and what we are being spoon-fed.

I’d like to add that I am only interested in finding the truth. I’m not interested in being assimilated.

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small clews

by truthseek in

can any one give me their views on this.

the utterance of jehovah to my lord is: .

sit at my right hand .

truthseek

. Can any one give me their views on this

The utterance of Jehovah to my Lord is:

“Sit at my right hand

((((Until)))) I place your enemies as a stool for your feet.”

2 The rod of your strength Jehovah will send out of Zion, [saying:]

“Go subduing ((((in the midst of your enemies.”))))

Acts 3:20 and that he may (((send forth))) the Christ appointed for YOU, Jesus, 21 whom heaven, indeed, must hold within itself ((((until the times of restoration of all thing))))

Luk 18:8, when the (((Son of man))) arrives, will he really find the faith on the earth?”

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World is flat syndrome

by truthseek in

jw
friends

prov.

26:12. have you seen a man wise in his own eyes?

there is more hope for the stupid one than for him.. .

truthseek

Here is some more plain English

John 16:13

for he will not speak of his own impulse,

The Holy Spirit cannot do anything other than God’s Will. It does not have it’s own impulse because it is Jehovah’s impulse.

but what things he hears he will speak,

The Holy Spirit does not need to be told what Jehovah’s Will is as it is his Will.

and he will declare to YOU the things coming.

Jesus was speaking to his disciples who were the anointed but this individual will declare to them (the anointed) the things coming. This makes it clear that Jesus was not referring to the anointed but another individual in the above lines.

Who is the ‘he’ that would declare to the Disciples (the anointed) the things coming?

If this is the Holy Spirit, the previous two lines prove it not to be the Holy Spirit.

5

World is flat syndrome

by truthseek in

jw
friends

prov.

26:12. have you seen a man wise in his own eyes?

there is more hope for the stupid one than for him.. .

truthseek

Here are a few straightforward simple messages written in plain English.

Psalm 110

The utterance of Jehovah to my Lord is:

“Sit at my right hand

((((Until)))) I place your enemies as a stool for your feet.”

2 The rod of your strength Jehovah will send out of Zion, [saying:]

“Go subduing ((((in the midst of your enemies.”))))

Acts 3:20 and that he may (((send forth))) the Christ appointed for YOU, Jesus, 21 whom heaven, indeed, must hold within itself ((((until the times of restoration of all thing))))

Luk 18:8, when the (((Son of man))) arrives, will he really find the faith on the earth?”

5

World is flat syndrome

by truthseek in

jw
friends

prov.

26:12. have you seen a man wise in his own eyes?

there is more hope for the stupid one than for him.. .

truthseek

Why not a dream for Judah as well

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World is flat syndrome

by truthseek in

jw
friends

prov.

26:12. have you seen a man wise in his own eyes?

there is more hope for the stupid one than for him.. .

truthseek

Prov. 26:12

Have you seen a man wise in his own eyes? There is more hope for the stupid one than for him.

I have been involved with the witnesses now for a long time.

However not long into my first study I began to feel uneasy with some interpretations of scriptures.

After some time I discovered that they were very wrong about some fundamental truths.

Now after years of trying to inform them of there errors I am about to seriously give up.

I have added something simple here to give you an example. If you know the truth you will have no problem answering the following.

As you can see from Josephs second prophetic dream it includes Josephs mother Rachel. However at Gen 35:17-18. it proves that she had died well before Josephs brothers had even sent him off to Egypt.

1 possibly a slight overview by the author of the dream

2 possibly a miss interpretation on the part of Jacob and his sons.

3 possibly the Watchtower has over looked something.

Gen 37:5 Later on Joseph had a dream and told it to his brothers, and they found further reason to hate him. 6 And he went on to say to them: “Listen, please, to this dream that I have dreamed. 7 Well, here we were binding sheaves in the middle of the field when here my sheaf got up and also stood erect and here YOUR sheaves proceeded to encircle and bow down to my sheaf.” 8 And his brothers began to say to him: “Are you going to be king over us for certain? or, Are you going to dominate over us for certain?” So they found fresh reason to hate him over his dreams and over his words.

9 After that he had still another dream, and he related it to his brothers and said: “Here I have had a dream once more, and here the sun and the moon and eleven stars were bowing down to me.” 10 Then he related it to his father as well as his brothers, and his father began to rebuke him and say to him: “What does this dream that you have dreamed mean? Am I and also your mother and your brothers for certain going to come and bow down to the earth to you?” 11 And his brothers grew jealous of him, but his father observed the saying.

Gen.35:17 17 But so it was that while she had difficulty in making the delivery the midwife said to her: “Do not be afraid, for you will have this son also.” 18 And the result was that as her soul was going out (because she died) she called his name Ben-o´ni; but his father called him Benjamin.