my wife, who is studying midwifery, has just finished watching an episode of maternity ward wherein a dub by the name of yvette thompson was having a caesarean due to fibroids among other things.
she told the doctor she wouldn't have a transfusion because of being a jw.
her 'fiance' said he disagreed with her stand but he would intervene if need be.
What's the likelihood she was D/F lickety-split for this rebellious act?
That would depend on several factors such as the brand of elders in her congregation and if she claims repentance. If she has hard-nosed elders she is likely fried but if she has moderate/well meaning elders she may get off if, in their opinion, she is "genuinely" repentant.
Another factor of course would be her own personality and personal history in the congregation.
jmo,
IW
anyone else while being a jw find it awful to be referred to as "sheep"?
i've always thought being called sheep was negative, as in - they are all a bunch of sheep!
i guess i was born stubborn goat, thank the gods!.
If taken as Jesus meant the word "sheep" to be taken I find no objection with that word or the word "slave."
Jesus was the shepherd of the sheep. It was an analogy.
IW
i thought these comments on channel c were fair views of fred franz' translation, not to mention a little surprising.
a breath of fresh air.
http://www.channelc.org/cgi-bin/eboard30/index2.cgi?frames=no&board=main&mode=current&message=21782.
HS,
Try sitting in an elders meeting while using the New International Version and this is what you will see : .
Lol, I agree!
IW
i thought these comments on channel c were fair views of fred franz' translation, not to mention a little surprising.
a breath of fresh air.
http://www.channelc.org/cgi-bin/eboard30/index2.cgi?frames=no&board=main&mode=current&message=21782.
I think it's good to look at things from both sides or if possible all sides. The NWT is biased but it is not a rag. The truth of things is rarely black and white. I was happy to read a fair assessment of Fred Franz' abilities to translate the Bible but of course that in itself does not make the NWT a good translation it does show, though, that Persson and Penton are being fair and truthful. Not a bad thing, imo.
IW
i thought these comments on channel c were fair views of fred franz' translation, not to mention a little surprising.
a breath of fresh air.
http://www.channelc.org/cgi-bin/eboard30/index2.cgi?frames=no&board=main&mode=current&message=21782.
I thought these comments on Channel C were fair views of Fred Franz' translation, not to mention a little surprising.
A breath of fresh air.
http://www.channelc.org/cgi-bin/eboard30/index2.cgi?frames=no&board=Main&mode=Current&message=21782
http://www.channelc.org/cgi-bin/eboard30/index2.cgi?frames=no&board=Main&mode=Current&message=21785
thirdwitness -- an agent of the governing body?
this evening i was talking with an old friend about recent postings on this forum by jw defenders.
we concluded that something unusual is going on.
Apparently the GB sent their "agent" to H2O first. Guess JWD is not the No.1 enemy of the GB afterall.
http://www.aimoo.com/forum/postview.cfm?id=311102&CategoryID=2967&startcat=301&ThreadID=2461224
is it possible for the jehovah's witness organization to disbandon?
as an ex jw, i can only live in hope!
what are your thought's and opinions on this matter?
I don't think Jehovah's Witnesses will disappear or disband but rather morph a little in order to survive.
IW
i think it's all about fear.
they are always afraid of displeasing jehovah god, the elders, the circuit overseer.
witnesses are always walking on eggshells, hoping that they'll be good enough to make it thru the great tribulation.
Some people stay because they honestly believe it's the true religion. There are many people whose lives before becoming a Witness were not all that pretty but when they became Witnesses their lives improved, in their view anyway. That is not a small thing for many people.
I don't think the Witness religion is the paradise they like to advertise themselves as but neither do I think its the total dump many on this board like to characterize it as either.
Just my opinion. And no, I'm no Watchtower plant. LOL
IW
thirdwitness -- an agent of the governing body?
this evening i was talking with an old friend about recent postings on this forum by jw defenders.
we concluded that something unusual is going on.
Alan wrote:
Any such defense would have to be covert, in the sense that whatever GB member or WTS official leading the charge, or giving the green light, would have to keep all connections to those in the field secret from other JWs. This would be necessary because the Society has directly instructed JWs to avoid the Internet at all costs. It is also a WTS tradition that only those directly appointed by it are allowed to publish public defenses.Given the above, I have a strong suspicion that thirdwitness and his collaborators are either Bethelites, or JWs with extremely close ties to Bethel, or both, all of whom have been given the green light by Watchtower officials to get on the Internet and do battle with JW critics.
You're losing it Alan.
These guys are among the quasi JW/exjw born again/e-watchman/richie/kline/etc., Christians posting on xjw boards you apparently don't frequent. Third Witness has entertained the folks at aimoo hourglass for some time now.
Paranoia does not become you! Whether you agree with them or not hardly matters since they are convinced they're right just as much as you are convinced you are. What I don't understand is why you let them get under your skin? What makes them that important anyway?
Whoever your friend is he/she has spent way too much time hating the Watchtower to the point that it's pickeled their brain. There is another life out there a good life. Fighting the watchtower's windmill is fun and at times even important but it's not a living, if you know what I mean.
Take care of yourself, Alan.
IW
the last interview i did with bill bowen was in april of 2003, and new things have happened regarding the pedophile issues in the watchtower's corrupt system led by ted jaracz and his corporate cronies.
some things are the same (mainly wt policies), and others have changed.
it took 10 years to develop some legal precendents to be laid down in order for lawsuits against the catholic priest pedophiles to move ahead, and some important legal precedents have now been established in court so as to pave the road for effective lawsuits against the watchtower leaders for their complicity in allowing pedophiles to remain in the congregations in good standing, some even as elders.
Blondie,
Excellent advice. Changing state law is the first step to helping abused children.
