i have been reading the posts on who is and or had been an elder.
it amazes me at what many have said.
perhaps i have misunderstood what they were saying.
*** w01 1/15 p. 14 par. 12 Overseers and Ministerial Servants Theocratically Appointed ***
''Those meeting the Scriptural requirements at the time of their appointmentas overseers or ministerial servants may thus be said to have been appointed by holy spirit.''
At the time of their appointment?
Not in the years, days, or even seconds before their appointment.
Not in the years, days, or even seconds after their appointment.
Only at the time of.
There we are. We've covered ourselves.
im a long-time lurker turned member, finally felt the need to share my experience with people who know where im coming from.
will try to be as succinct as possible!.
am from the uk and was born in as 3rd generation.
Hi, welcome and thanks for joining in.
"but once you see everything in context it’s impossible to carry on." Exactly same for me.
"In the end I simply stopped going one day…..and heard not a peep out of a single brother, sister or elder."
I think many who post here would be surprised to find that this is probably the norm and I would say just do it.
the organization:.
engages in revisionist history [1914 christ's presense foretold].
judge rutherford was a false prophet and a crook [1925, beth-serim].
''Farkel, Gently Prodding CLASS''
i have put together a mash up of active and former jehovah's witnesses, including a number of interesting interviews.. http://youtu.be/ozwvh57erro.
as a side note, i hope it does not get removed for copyright violation, as software automatically scans for pieces of music and i have already received some violation messages.
the video does comply with fair usage laws, as the music is relevant to the commentary..
Ja Rule summed it up best.
Thanks for posting.
Nicely spotted thanks. My mistake, except Coventry.
Cardiff used to be in Millenium Stadium seating capacity 72,500. Motorpoint Arena capacity 7,500.
22nd August 2014.
believers in the koran/islam, that's all of them, not just so called extremists, believe that i, as an unbeliever, will be the fuel for the fires of hell.
that's nice.. they, along with all bible believers, worship a god who is, according to his written publications, a right bastard.
i despise their god/s.. i find that i do not respect their beliefs.. i cannot help but think that when all the philosophical talking of this, that and the other is done, they're just idiots.. i, on my down days, find that i do not respect them as human beings.
Justitia Themis,
My mistake sorry, I took Surat Ali Imram 3 verse 10
'' Indeed, those who disbelieve - never will their wealth or their children avail them against Allah at all. And it is they who are fuel for the Fire.''
to mean that I as an atheist would be the fuel for the fire.
believers in the koran/islam, that's all of them, not just so called extremists, believe that i, as an unbeliever, will be the fuel for the fires of hell.
that's nice.. they, along with all bible believers, worship a god who is, according to his written publications, a right bastard.
i despise their god/s.. i find that i do not respect their beliefs.. i cannot help but think that when all the philosophical talking of this, that and the other is done, they're just idiots.. i, on my down days, find that i do not respect them as human beings.
Believers in the Koran/Islam, that's all of them, not just so called extremists, believe that I, as an unbeliever, will be the fuel for the fires of hell. That's nice.
They, along with ALL Bible believers, worship a god who is, according to his written publications, a right bastard.
I despise their god/s.
I find that I do not respect their beliefs.
I cannot help but think that when all the philosophical talking of this, that and the other is done, they're just idiots.
I, on my down days, find that I do not respect them as human beings. But I think this is wrong.
But I find it hard to respect someone who as an adult still believes in Father Christmas and the tooth fairy.
How do I overcome this?
the jws stopped by my house a couple weeks ago on a saturday morning.
i knew that with others most likely waiting for them out in the car they probably did not then have much time to engage in any serious conversation.
so i let them talk while i feigned interest in what they had to say.
Captain Obvious said
''There is only one possible conclusion: the case for a deity in the sky is far too unconvincing to warrant committing myself to. And if god is real, and he is the Judeo-Christian God, then he does not deserve worship based on his book.''
And the people who do worship that 'god' do not deserve my respect.
when you're part of a lovely big group of people who all seem to be happy in their beliefs, it's easier to quell your own doubts.
if i was the only person left in the congregation who still went on the door to door work, because every body else had stopped going , having said out loud what most think, ''it's a waste of time'', how long do you think before i too would cease going door to door?.
i know from my own perspective that having lots of fellow witnesses around me, steered me into making life changing decisions.
Just to clarify, I'm not talking about a worldwide coordinated exit. Just no more fading. Just stopping.
