Posts by ThomasCovenant

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been on jwn for about a year, here is what i've learned or had an inkling about

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the organization:.

engages in revisionist history [1914 christ's presense foretold].

judge rutherford was a false prophet and a crook [1925, beth-serim].

New video of interviews with Famous active and former Jehovah's Witnesses

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i have put together a mash up of active and former jehovah's witnesses, including a number of interesting interviews.. http://youtu.be/ozwvh57erro.

as a side note, i hope it does not get removed for copyright violation, as software automatically scans for pieces of music and i have already received some violation messages.

the video does comply with fair usage laws, as the music is relevant to the commentary..

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Ja Rule summed it up best.

Thanks for posting.

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All UK and Ireland Conventions on same weekend for 2014.

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22nd august 2014..

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Nicely spotted thanks. My mistake, except Coventry.

Cardiff used to be in Millenium Stadium seating capacity 72,500. Motorpoint Arena capacity 7,500.

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All UK and Ireland Conventions on same weekend for 2014.

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22nd august 2014..

Should I ''respect'' Bible and Koran believers?

by ThomasCovenant in

believers in the koran/islam, that's all of them, not just so called extremists, believe that i, as an unbeliever, will be the fuel for the fires of hell.

that's nice.. they, along with all bible believers, worship a god who is, according to his written publications, a right bastard.

i despise their god/s.. i find that i do not respect their beliefs.. i cannot help but think that when all the philosophical talking of this, that and the other is done, they're just idiots.. i, on my down days, find that i do not respect them as human beings.

ThomasCovenant

Justitia Themis,

My mistake sorry, I took Surat Ali Imram 3 verse 10

'' Indeed, those who disbelieve - never will their wealth or their children avail them against Allah at all. And it is they who are fuel for the Fire.''

to mean that I as an atheist would be the fuel for the fire.

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Should I ''respect'' Bible and Koran believers?

by ThomasCovenant in

believers in the koran/islam, that's all of them, not just so called extremists, believe that i, as an unbeliever, will be the fuel for the fires of hell.

that's nice.. they, along with all bible believers, worship a god who is, according to his written publications, a right bastard.

i despise their god/s.. i find that i do not respect their beliefs.. i cannot help but think that when all the philosophical talking of this, that and the other is done, they're just idiots.. i, on my down days, find that i do not respect them as human beings.

ThomasCovenant

Believers in the Koran/Islam, that's all of them, not just so called extremists, believe that I, as an unbeliever, will be the fuel for the fires of hell. That's nice.

They, along with ALL Bible believers, worship a god who is, according to his written publications, a right bastard.

I despise their god/s.

I find that I do not respect their beliefs.

I cannot help but think that when all the philosophical talking of this, that and the other is done, they're just idiots.

I, on my down days, find that I do not respect them as human beings. But I think this is wrong.

But I find it hard to respect someone who as an adult still believes in Father Christmas and the tooth fairy.

How do I overcome this?

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How I recently handled JWs at my door

by Christian guy in

the jws stopped by my house a couple weeks ago on a saturday morning.

i knew that with others most likely waiting for them out in the car they probably did not then have much time to engage in any serious conversation.

so i let them talk while i feigned interest in what they had to say.

ThomasCovenant

Captain Obvious said

''There is only one possible conclusion: the case for a deity in the sky is far too unconvincing to warrant committing myself to. And if god is real, and he is the Judeo-Christian God, then he does not deserve worship based on his book.''

And the people who do worship that 'god' do not deserve my respect.

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If all ''faders'' abruptly left the Watchtower and made no effort to hide the reasons why, what affect, if any, do you think it would make on the congregations?

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when you're part of a lovely big group of people who all seem to be happy in their beliefs, it's easier to quell your own doubts.

if i was the only person left in the congregation who still went on the door to door work, because every body else had stopped going , having said out loud what most think, ''it's a waste of time'', how long do you think before i too would cease going door to door?.

i know from my own perspective that having lots of fellow witnesses around me, steered me into making life changing decisions.

ThomasCovenant

Just to clarify, I'm not talking about a worldwide coordinated exit. Just no more fading. Just stopping.

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If all ''faders'' abruptly left the Watchtower and made no effort to hide the reasons why, what affect, if any, do you think it would make on the congregations?

by ThomasCovenant in

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when you're part of a lovely big group of people who all seem to be happy in their beliefs, it's easier to quell your own doubts.

if i was the only person left in the congregation who still went on the door to door work, because every body else had stopped going , having said out loud what most think, ''it's a waste of time'', how long do you think before i too would cease going door to door?.

i know from my own perspective that having lots of fellow witnesses around me, steered me into making life changing decisions.

ThomasCovenant

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If all ''faders'' abruptly left the Watchtower and made no effort to hide the reasons why, what affect, if any, do you think it would make on the congregations?

by ThomasCovenant in

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when you're part of a lovely big group of people who all seem to be happy in their beliefs, it's easier to quell your own doubts.

if i was the only person left in the congregation who still went on the door to door work, because every body else had stopped going , having said out loud what most think, ''it's a waste of time'', how long do you think before i too would cease going door to door?.

i know from my own perspective that having lots of fellow witnesses around me, steered me into making life changing decisions.

ThomasCovenant

When you're part of a lovely big group of people who all seem to be happy in their beliefs, it's easier to quell your own doubts.

If I was the only person left in the congregation who still went on the door to door work, because every body else had stopped going , having said out loud what most think, ''it's a waste of time'', how long do you think before I too would cease going door to door?

I know from my own perspective that having lots of fellow Witnesses around me, steered me into making life changing decisions. I was influenced by those around me and the constant indoctrination from the platform.

I looked up to certain 'educated' 'intelligent' Witnesses as a teenager and thought, if they believe it, it must be right.

I'm just a spotty youth.

If those Witnesses had upped and left, and explained their reasons I may, (stress may) have felt differently.

I feel that there are probably many still attending who don't believe it.

If they all suddenly stopped going would it have any affect on the remaining doubters to also leave?