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  Name Things that AGGRAVATE You

  by minimus in

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  i hate pop ups on my computer.

  i can't stand getting salespeople calling from the same company 3 times in a day!

  i hate being behind asian or indian drivers........

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  I'm always right.

  oookay...
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  Name Things that AGGRAVATE You

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i hate pop ups on my computer.

  i can't stand getting salespeople calling from the same company 3 times in a day!

  i hate being behind asian or indian drivers........

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  Anyhow, back to topic...

  I am aggravated when people don't take responsibility for their own words and actions. I'm even more aggravated when I catch myself doing the same thing.

  I am aggravated by people who live their lives with blinders on. I'm even more aggravated when I think I'm living life with no blinders and find that although one might think he has a broader view of things than others, those binders are still there, just perhaps opened a bit wider, or so we think.
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  Name Things that AGGRAVATE You

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i hate pop ups on my computer.

  i can't stand getting salespeople calling from the same company 3 times in a day!

  i hate being behind asian or indian drivers........

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  undercover said:

  ever notice it's the rich white mofos that buy expensive sports cars and then drive them like my grandmother used to drive her 1960 Impala?

  Sure, I've seen those as well. My point was that people sometimes tend to fixate on racial or other sterotypes when, if they would open their eyes, they would realize that bad driving knows no boundaries. In fact, I'd go so far as to say, from a certain perspective, we are all guilty of sh*tty driving from time to time, likely even feeding into some other person's stereotyping.

  Example: I used to live in a quite wealthy neighborhood where I would bitch all the time about the "rich, white mofos" driving their BMWs, Hummers, etc. like they own the road. Then I moved back to a more middle, lower-middle class area and caught myself bitching about the "poor trash mofos" driving their hoopties. I stopped cold and realized that there was no need to stereotype any further than just "bad drivers".

  This drives me nuts because my father, a JW, when I tell him of a driving incident, will inevitably reply "and I'll bet they were mexican, weren't they!" I correct him every time since in no case has it ever been someone from south of the border in fact. But this is an example where he will ignore the skin tone of some people who might cut him off, but fixate on "Mexicans" if they were to.
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  Name Things that AGGRAVATE You

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i hate pop ups on my computer.

  i can't stand getting salespeople calling from the same company 3 times in a day!

  i hate being behind asian or indian drivers........

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  daystar

  minimus said:

  I hate being behind Asian or Indian drivers........

  I too am sometimes tempted to think that way. Then I think about all the times I've been stuck behind rich, white people who can't drive, or behind sh*t-kickers and their trucks, or Mexicans, or elderly people, or.... even people my own race, age, and class.
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  Cats a JW no-no?

  by Confession in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i stumbled across what appears to be a website maintained by a jw circuit overseer.

  on it he includes what looks like a question from readers.

  it has very strong things to say about the 'beastliness' of cats--and why christians should consider whether or not it is proper to have them in our homes.

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  daystar

  This is the sort of ridiculous pseudo-logic that drives me nuts.

  First, let us consider what most scholars agree is the etymology (word derivation) for the English term 'cat'. When analyzed with the Latin 'felis cattus domesticus', the original Koine Greek is 'cur.io huma bes-tia', means 'a contemporary housecat with all of its beastly identifying characteristics and behavior.' A faithful servant of Jehovah would quickly notice that the nature of a cat is so marked as being 'beastly'. The Bible makes clear reference to this condition when describing parts of Satan's organizations, both past and present. For instance, consider the fearsome 'beasts' as described in the book of Daniel or the 'scarlet colored wild beast' in Rev. 17:3. The demons entered the swine when rebuked by Jesus showing the potential harm and malevolent spirit control to which a Christian may be potentially exposed. Lest we forget the story of Nebuchadnezzar and the condition of God's enemy when being humbled by Jehovah, the student of God's Holy word would ask - is it by accident that the Bible in the book of Daniel describes his experience as a 'beast' of the field? Hardly so!

  Clearly, the Bible - by using this kind of terminology - shows beyond any reasonable doubt that the basic nature of cats, while created perfect by God, has become evil or 'beastlike' since the fall of Adam six thousand years ago, and more probably, since the Great Flood of Noah's time (c2350 B.C.E.). This is a development of the condition borne by the 'Original Serpent', the 'Great Dragon' Lucifer himself. (Gen. 3:1) Indeed, modern studies of classification of cats, while not necessarily being reliable as they may be based on the discredited 'theory' of evolution, strongly associate felines with serpents (despite some external differences in physiology and morphology, which confuse those who do not study these matters deeply).

  Using that same logic one can find the following to be true. The 'Great Dragon', Lucifer translates to "Bringer of Light". Clearly, the Bible - by using this kind of terminology - relates this 'new light' so often spoken of by the modern-day false prophet, the Watchtower Bible and Track Society, to Lucifer as the bringer of this 'new light'.

  I think a few of these people should take some logic courses.
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  Why can you not question/double standard

  by Ticker in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have been recently reading isocf and am now on the indoctrination chapter.

  what always gripes me with the witnesses has been this one simple double standard of theirs.

  when you look at a watchtower or any publication of theirs, it has two messages.

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  daystar

  Rather than quote from any bible...

  "I slept with faith and found a corpse in my arms on awakening; I drank and danced all night with doubt and found her a virgin in the morning."
  
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  The unpleasantness of growing up in the jw world.

  by greendawn in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  jw children have typically a very hard time growing up because of having to be so different from other kids they can't celebrate christmas, easter, birthdays or national holidays can't associate with "worldly" kids because that can ruin good habits, and as teenagers have to suppress sexual urges at the time when they are at their most intense.

  they are constantly under pressure and living in a jw environment that's not particularly loving, understanding, or supportive they will probaly tell them: if you feeling down do some more field work to cheer up.

  no wonder why so many leave.

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  jula71 said

  I'm a social wreck having been raised thinking how bad "worldly" people are and trying to avoid contact with them. Now I'm trying to grow and adjust in a way that normally would have taken place in my adolescent years.

  I'm with you. I sometimes wonder if I will ever be able to have a normal relationship with anyone. It's very tough just to make and keep connections that most people take for granted.
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  Would you go to a funeral at the Kingdom Hall?

  by Dustin in

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  2. friends

  so my brother and i have been having talks about what will happen when our dad passes away eventually.

  most of his brothers and sisters have died in their 50's or early 60's.

  i flat out refuse to attend any part of the service that would be done at the kingdom hall.

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  It's your father. You should go regardless of where the services are held. But if it's at the KH, I may suggest talking to some non-JW friends, explaining the situation, and asking them to go with, if only for the support.
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  The Loving Provision Of Disfellowshipping.

  by Englishman in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  watchtower, july 15, 1995:.

  disfellowshippinga loving provision?.

  "holy, holy, holy is jehovah god, the almighty.

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  I was never df'd (was never baptised) and I really don't know if I was publicly da'd or not. After 16 years in "the truth", the elders simply gave me two options: repent, or stop coming to the meetings (their words). No "loving kindness". No "tender concern". No "counselling". Just hard words and ultimatums. Having been raised as a Witness, at 18 years old, having been severely sheltered my entire life due to the WTS teachings, I was a child socially. I had no idea what to do.

  But I was so dismayed by the Elders' utter lack of any sort of "kindness" and "understanding", the reality of the situation hit me like an anvil. I knew at that point that whatever happened after, I was not to remain a Witness. At the time, I only hoped that Jehovah was still with me. I knew in my "heart of hearts" that I didn't deserve the treament I'd been given. I knew that I had not been treated with any manner of love or personal concern for my well-being.

  I was right.

  In regards to the second to last paragraph in this article, it looks good on paper. But in practice, it never happens. If a person is df'd or da'd, their family becomes a pariah. I'd seen it many, many times before I stopped attending meetings. And I see it to this day.

  In light of that, and for many, many other reasons, I firmly believe that the WTBTS, the WTS, et al are corrupt and quite nearly evil. "Loving kindness" is only reserved for the WTS, but never for individuals in the congregation. Individuals are treated coldly, hardheartedly, and harshly. Only when there is benefit to be had by other persons in the congregation do they make an effort to comfort. Either they tack it onto their Service Report, or do it to make a show of their righteousness. It's true in so many cases. I swear it is.

  Were I to have read this when I was still a young, active Witness, I would believe that they are all lies by some Apostate who is vehemently opposed to Jehovah and His Organization. It's all paranoia. Most ex-JWs are just looking for some place, some people, to help ease the pain caused by a very Indiscreet religion.

  If those elders had shown me even a little compassion, I quite possibly may have turned myself back to the "Truth". Heck, I might have stayed.

  With that said, I want to express my deepest thanks for those two elders showing me the true heart of the Society back then and allowing for my escape into a world where I have found more love, kindness, caring and understanding than I ever did as a Witness. I thank Jehovah for testing me and finding me worthy!
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  What do you think the main guilt trips are in the jws?

  by misguided in

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  2. friends

  greendawn asked this question at: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/94462/1604122/post.ashx#1604122 (hope i did that right).

  i think this question deserved a thread of its own.. rose.

  i hope that's ok, greendawn.

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  Misguided... wow... right there with you.