Merry Christmas! enjoy the holiday
Posts by carla
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Christmas Eve Afternoon
by Joe Grundy inwell, it's christmas eve afternoon here now in the uk.. traditionally a time when all the panic shopping is over, what's done is done, what you've forgotten you've forgotten, time to raise a glass (or two) and relax.. so may i wish all members/readers/posters a very happy xmas, whether you celebrate it or not, and extra 'get up and go' for 2015.. best wishes to all.. .
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Public Speaker Training stifled by wt, it's new 'school' programme.
by prologos inthe 2015 school setup, discussed this week eliminates the last "school talk" by brothers in favour of 'demonstartions" (a la sisters conversations) of family worship sessions and the like.. is this not a shift away from encouraging bright young ones to hone their (under-estimated) speaker skills ---to.
now using more of the die-hard, org-bound, --even elders in indoctrination demonstrations?.
do you see this trend?
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carla
3 minutes? out of a whole meeting? This is the mid week meeting? Are you kidding?! my jw is gone for about 2 1/2 hours or more and out of that time there is only going to be 3 minutes of actual bible scripture included? even if it is the perverted 'New New World Translation'. Will any jw notice this?
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No words
by mikeypants inso, i'm visiting family this week who are all jws.
yesterday, it started with one of them talking about a co giving her some points on time keeping for service.
she is now writing a letter before she drives to service, so she can count her drive time.
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carla
The counting of time keeps them all on the hamster wheel doesn't it? no time to think of what really matters, keeps your mind occupied with how to cheat the system so to speak.
Their whole system is devised to keep a jw from thinking at all. Even their so called 'bible studies' are a no thinking zone. Go through the book(s) and regurgitate back what is said, "now you got it!" no questioning allowed, no real research and definitely no deep thinking!
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Plymouth Herald: Mother reveals torment as JW is jailed for sexually abusing her daughter
by AndersonsInfo insee original thread here on jwn: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/child-abuse/288910/3/jehovahe28099s-witness-elder-jailed-for-12-years-for-multiple-sexual-offences-against-young-girl.
http://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/mother-reveals-torment-jehovah-s-witness-jailed/story-25741246-detail/story.html.
mother reveals torment as jehovah's witness is jailed for sexually abusing her daughter.
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carla
"Dennis blew a kiss to the victim and her mother in the public gallery as he admitted his crimes"- I see there was already a comment on this but I wonder what jw's would say to that? I suppose they would say he wasn't a 'real' jw? even though he was an elder?
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A public thank you to Joe Grundy
by Pams girl ini have been going through the most terrible time these past 4 weeks, which has nothing to do with the jw, and everything to do with being abandoned with anxiety, panic and agoraphobia, and a new diagnoses of an illness called pmdd, which robbed me of my career, and it seems, my marriage, as my husband has moved out and left me with our son.
this man, this "stranger", jumped in his car to offer me support, and travelled 2 hours to be with me, despite what was going on with him, just be with me for a few hours and try to help.
what an amazing selfless act.
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carla
aww, what a nice story! Wishing you peace and Joe much love and peace in his life as well.
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Court Bars Kids From Jehovah's Witness Activities
by Bangalore incourt bars kids from jehovah's witness activities.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/64209712/court-bars-kids-from-jehovahs-witness-activitieshttp://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11375208bangalore.
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carla
I hope the guy can find a way to de-program the kids. Wishing this family well, poor kids.
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Do Jws even need Jesus?
by TTWSYF injust thinking out loud becauseof some things my elder brother has said in the past.
how his works help ensure his future w/the great crowd on earth.. .
well, i need jesus for my salvation,but perhaps some of you do not.. just asking.
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carla
Great responses and thanks to those who posted quotes from the org.
When my jw first joined up and for quite a few years after that he did not believe that Jesus was not for him but only for the anointed/fds/gb (pick your year of doctrines I guess). It amazed me that he did not understand this simple concept that he must hang on the coat-tails of the higher ups to somehow be approved to make it into the fictional jw paradise. All these years later he finally gets it, I think. It still has nothing to do with what mainstream Christianity thinks of when referring to 'salvation' and most jw's do not consider themeselves 'sinners' anyway, or what they call intentional sinners in need of salvation.
When I talk to mainstream Christians and tell them that the average rank and file jw cannot talk to Jesus (pray to Him) they think I must have it all wrong because after all, aren't jw's just a quirky little denomination who carry a Bible? most of them have no clue at all.
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carla
Hello Grace, Glad to see you posting again! Wishing you an early Merry Christmas in case I miss you later, carla
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Awarded a Badge of Honour - I'm an 'Apostate'
by Joe Grundy in(i never was a jw).. just had a d2d (fs) visit.
older guy (said he's been in since 1958 and is an elder) with a younger guy (20 or so).
looking out at the street i obviously drew the short straw because further down the street was a pair of not unattractive younger women jws.
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carla
Excellent job! The younger one may one day think about what you have said.
Maybe that is how the non jw community can reach more jw's, speak only to the 'secondary' jw at the door, make him/her answer instead of the more obnoxious one.
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2 Faced JWs and Thanksgiving
by minimus inmany jws enjoy turkey on thanksgiving day and are often discreet about their indulgences.
why be two faced?
why try to excuse it?.
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carla
I didn't, I gave up after he could not get past a 'new moon'. He was just deflecting because he could not answer anything with a reasonable answer. I naturally knew the jw reasons for things but once the glassy eyes and jw look came across his face there was no talking to him. Now, we try not to discuss anything jw and life is much better! Our kids who are all grown up now have also given up trying to reach him and do not allow him to bring jw literature into their homes. (and yes, had a lovely Thanksgiving with family at my house! shh, don't tell the elders)