YKnot, so are they saying do not be extreme as inn 'lighten up', or as in do not go crazy looking to create necessary family business? Or will they leave it murky and it be a read between the lines for witnesses?
isaacaustin
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More AGM News-- Spiritual matters continue!
by yknot ini always find it interesting how emails vary in perception.
two more 'snippets' have arrived and i am posting them for forum consumption (this is still technically 'spiritual food') and discussion.
as with the last thread, the original author and those they emailed are not responsible!
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Dec 2010 Awake: Recycled Well-to-Asians WT "Commentary"
by Red Piller in*** w94 12/15 pp.
3-4 what does christmas mean to you?
what does christmas mean to you?.
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isaacaustin
So if it lost all religious meaning, like pinantas, it should be up to the member's conscience.
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Fallen! Fallen is Babylon the Great!
by sacolton in$79 million tax demand on jehovahs witnesses threatens freedom of religionstrasbourgon september 21, 2010, the european court of human rights (echr) ruled unanimously that the complaint filed by jehovahs witnesses in france is admissible regarding alleged interference with their freedom of religion.. the government of france had imposed a retroactive 60-percent tax on all religious offerings donated to association les temoins de jehovah(also referred to as the christian association of jehovahs witnesses of france) over a period of four years from 1993 to 1996. the government initially demanded a total payment of about 45 million euros.
the amount demanded is now more than 57 million euros (more than $79,000,000 usd), which far exceeds the assets of the association.the echr took note of the fact that throughout the court proceedings within france, jehovahs witnesses had consistently maintained that the contested tax was a direct attack on their religious freedom.
in fact, it had been imposed on them within the context of the france governments fight against so-called sects.
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isaacaustin
Yes, and unlike the JW cult we are truly an ecclectic crew- different backgrounds, different views from each other now...but all valuable and helpful in this endeavor.
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Fallen! Fallen is Babylon the Great!
by sacolton in$79 million tax demand on jehovahs witnesses threatens freedom of religionstrasbourgon september 21, 2010, the european court of human rights (echr) ruled unanimously that the complaint filed by jehovahs witnesses in france is admissible regarding alleged interference with their freedom of religion.. the government of france had imposed a retroactive 60-percent tax on all religious offerings donated to association les temoins de jehovah(also referred to as the christian association of jehovahs witnesses of france) over a period of four years from 1993 to 1996. the government initially demanded a total payment of about 45 million euros.
the amount demanded is now more than 57 million euros (more than $79,000,000 usd), which far exceeds the assets of the association.the echr took note of the fact that throughout the court proceedings within france, jehovahs witnesses had consistently maintained that the contested tax was a direct attack on their religious freedom.
in fact, it had been imposed on them within the context of the france governments fight against so-called sects.
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isaacaustin
It is a lifeaving work Jook. Its especially rewarding to spare children from this mess!
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Fallen! Fallen is Babylon the Great!
by sacolton in$79 million tax demand on jehovahs witnesses threatens freedom of religionstrasbourgon september 21, 2010, the european court of human rights (echr) ruled unanimously that the complaint filed by jehovahs witnesses in france is admissible regarding alleged interference with their freedom of religion.. the government of france had imposed a retroactive 60-percent tax on all religious offerings donated to association les temoins de jehovah(also referred to as the christian association of jehovahs witnesses of france) over a period of four years from 1993 to 1996. the government initially demanded a total payment of about 45 million euros.
the amount demanded is now more than 57 million euros (more than $79,000,000 usd), which far exceeds the assets of the association.the echr took note of the fact that throughout the court proceedings within france, jehovahs witnesses had consistently maintained that the contested tax was a direct attack on their religious freedom.
in fact, it had been imposed on them within the context of the france governments fight against so-called sects.
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isaacaustin
Jook, we can only hope.
Also, me and some others helped out another poster on this thread:
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/200059/1/Question-for-Jookbeard
Anything you want to add?
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Fallen! Fallen is Babylon the Great!
by sacolton in$79 million tax demand on jehovahs witnesses threatens freedom of religionstrasbourgon september 21, 2010, the european court of human rights (echr) ruled unanimously that the complaint filed by jehovahs witnesses in france is admissible regarding alleged interference with their freedom of religion.. the government of france had imposed a retroactive 60-percent tax on all religious offerings donated to association les temoins de jehovah(also referred to as the christian association of jehovahs witnesses of france) over a period of four years from 1993 to 1996. the government initially demanded a total payment of about 45 million euros.
the amount demanded is now more than 57 million euros (more than $79,000,000 usd), which far exceeds the assets of the association.the echr took note of the fact that throughout the court proceedings within france, jehovahs witnesses had consistently maintained that the contested tax was a direct attack on their religious freedom.
in fact, it had been imposed on them within the context of the france governments fight against so-called sects.
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isaacaustin
In the US at least, Congress has the authority to tax all income, from whatever source derived. All exclusions/exemptions/deductions are by the grace of Congress...as is a tax-exempt status. If the governemnt can be convinced the status is abused they can revoke the status. Or they can eliminate all religions from the class of tax-exempt.
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Fallen! Fallen is Babylon the Great!
by sacolton in$79 million tax demand on jehovahs witnesses threatens freedom of religionstrasbourgon september 21, 2010, the european court of human rights (echr) ruled unanimously that the complaint filed by jehovahs witnesses in france is admissible regarding alleged interference with their freedom of religion.. the government of france had imposed a retroactive 60-percent tax on all religious offerings donated to association les temoins de jehovah(also referred to as the christian association of jehovahs witnesses of france) over a period of four years from 1993 to 1996. the government initially demanded a total payment of about 45 million euros.
the amount demanded is now more than 57 million euros (more than $79,000,000 usd), which far exceeds the assets of the association.the echr took note of the fact that throughout the court proceedings within france, jehovahs witnesses had consistently maintained that the contested tax was a direct attack on their religious freedom.
in fact, it had been imposed on them within the context of the france governments fight against so-called sects.
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isaacaustin
I totally agree soldiar77, it would be a huge precedent.
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Fallen! Fallen is Babylon the Great!
by sacolton in$79 million tax demand on jehovahs witnesses threatens freedom of religionstrasbourgon september 21, 2010, the european court of human rights (echr) ruled unanimously that the complaint filed by jehovahs witnesses in france is admissible regarding alleged interference with their freedom of religion.. the government of france had imposed a retroactive 60-percent tax on all religious offerings donated to association les temoins de jehovah(also referred to as the christian association of jehovahs witnesses of france) over a period of four years from 1993 to 1996. the government initially demanded a total payment of about 45 million euros.
the amount demanded is now more than 57 million euros (more than $79,000,000 usd), which far exceeds the assets of the association.the echr took note of the fact that throughout the court proceedings within france, jehovahs witnesses had consistently maintained that the contested tax was a direct attack on their religious freedom.
in fact, it had been imposed on them within the context of the france governments fight against so-called sects.
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isaacaustin
Reniaa, hang on to your panties. It was ruled admissable in the case..the case is not over or decided yet.
Hopefully the charges end up standing..time will tell.
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How credible is the wt claim to be chosen by Christ in 1919.
by coffee_black ini brought this up to debator on another thread... and he/she ignored it... thought the subject deserved its own thread...for anyone who has never read the finished mystery.. .
the watchtower claims that jesus inspected the churches in 1919 and chose the watchtower to represent god on earth, based upon the spiritual food they were dispensing at that time.. .
note:.
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isaacaustin
My question to JW apologists, that has gone unanswered is this:
On what basis can we conclude that the International Bible Student's leadership was freed from Babylonish captivity and appointed God's earthly steward , when they were practicing the idential things they were in 1917 which supposedly got them sent away in the first place.
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THERE ARE NO WORDS TO DESCRIBE THIS!!!!!.....
by Nick! inhi xxxx,.
to tell you the truth, i feel very deceived from the way the organization has been acting in the last years.. .
----- original message ----- from: xxxxxsent: wednesday, august 18, 2010 1:04 amsubject: fw: there are no words to describe this!!!!!......
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isaacaustin
Reinaa (debator) said:
I am a Jehovah's witness and saddened by your story.
My reply: Well you just gave yourself away that you are not one. You don't know the lingo. It is not "I am a Jehovah's Witness" but rather "I am one of Jehovah's Witnesses"
Reniaa said:
But I fully support the Blood position, it simply did not end with the other dietary Laws
My reply: Yeah, it did. The council that met in Acts simply asked the gentiles to refrain from eating blood, marriage to close relatives forbidden under Jewish Law, etc while tension was high between the Jews and newly converted Christians.