yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
@flamegrilled
Therefore I am sticking to the point which is simply that the tsanami does not logically present a fatal flaw to theists.
Do you see a progression in theistic apologetics?
500 years ago heretics were burnt at the stake
100 years ago to deny God was social suicide
Today believers are reduced to a small lonely voice in the corner pleading for 'logical possibility'
Sunshine is a powerful disinfectant.
i've been in need of a new laptop for a long time.
no, i mean it - a really long time.
the old dell that we have has a floppy lid and is woefully underpowered although it does build up my upper body strength every time i pick it up.. the last 6 months has been a bad time to buy something new though with the haswell processors on the horizon promising better battery life and also screen technology seems to have been leaping ahead recently to a new hi-dpi standard.. so apple finally released their mac book pro and at the same time dell has released an xps 15 ultrabook which looks like a pretty good alternative and probably better 'value'.. pro's and con's?
"My name is Simon and I'm a recovering Windows 8 user"
Thanks for sharing with the group.
yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
@flamegrilled
I like you - you seem to be lucid, which makes a pleasant change :-)
The point is far more simple than that. We can acknowledge that it is possible that a higher being has a reason for doing something that appears unloving from our standpoint - but only because we have incomplete information.
Most things are possible. That's why we invented probable.
250k drowned people for no reason = christian bible god probably doesn't exist.
yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
flamegrilled says =
For the rest you will have to read my comments, as I'd only repeat myself.
flamegrilled does =
I confess I haven't read every comment on this post.
If its not too much trouble can you let me know the page number of the post you want me to read.
yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
and that applies how to wiping out 250k humans?
speculate please on what might be the 'true facts' we can't comprehend from the Tsunami? or you can decline to speculate if you prefer.
yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
@flamegrilled
the fact remains that we CAN conceive of a circumstance whereby it seems irrational to reconcile the loving nature of a higher being from the viewpoint of a being that has more limited ability to assess the true facts .
please run that by me again with an example, assuming we both agree on the standard definition of a fact ie. that which can be demonstrably proven to be an accurate reflection of reality
yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
The Bible = what God says
The Tsunami = what God does
any questions.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=pukmuz4tljg .
@rip van winkle - take a nap :-)
pretty funny though - the streetsweeper dude is a pretty low reactor - he has seen some sh*t I guess..
this is taken from the bbc's sunday morning show 'the big questions'.
i was going to pick out a few highlights but really, you need to watch the whole thing - it's only 23 minutes.
seriously, i could feel the bile and frustration rising in my gullet .
"aposticated" - new word
this is taken from the bbc's sunday morning show 'the big questions'.
i was going to pick out a few highlights but really, you need to watch the whole thing - it's only 23 minutes.
seriously, i could feel the bile and frustration rising in my gullet .
I feel so sorry for that idiots children - it really ought to be a crime to coerce children in abusive religions
