Posts by besty

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The WT Society, Global Warming, and the NWO

by lambsbottom in

was just looking at how many articles the wt put out around the time when al gore was pitching the global warming bs for his nwo (new world order) friends.. .

http://nypost.com/2013/12/05/global-warming-proof-is-evaporating/.

wt would rather jws to:.

besty

@lambsbottom - waiting with bated breath for 'natural causes' definition

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Ice storm in Texas - climate change happening yet?

by Simon in

so, with the ice storm hitting texas does this mean that they will now accept climate change is real?.

or will they just try firing guns at the clouds ....

besty

Maybe Rick Perry will declare 3 days of prayer for drought to come back :-(

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Days_of_Prayer_for_Rain_in_the_State_of_Texas

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The WT Society, Global Warming, and the NWO

by lambsbottom in

was just looking at how many articles the wt put out around the time when al gore was pitching the global warming bs for his nwo (new world order) friends.. .

http://nypost.com/2013/12/05/global-warming-proof-is-evaporating/.

wt would rather jws to:.

besty

@lisa - I also prefer reality. When it comes to claiming 'natural causes' are responsible for climate change, I think that deserves more exploration.

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The WT Society, Global Warming, and the NWO

by lambsbottom in

was just looking at how many articles the wt put out around the time when al gore was pitching the global warming bs for his nwo (new world order) friends.. .

http://nypost.com/2013/12/05/global-warming-proof-is-evaporating/.

wt would rather jws to:.

besty

@lambsbottom

I believe that 'global warming' is simply 'natural' changes to enviroment that come and go through the centuries.

Maybe you can expand on what you mean by 'natural changes' please?

Climate science accepts there has always been natural change in climate. Climate is known to respond to the biggest influence on it at any one time. It doesn't have a mind of it own to just wiggle back and forth between hot and cold extremes, like some sort of self-propelling pendulum. Those natural influences could be the sun, volcanoes, planetary cycles in various relative intensities.

What particular 'natural cause' are you claiming is responsible for the current change in climate?

Further reading - http://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2013/sep/23/climate-science-magical-thinking-debunked-by-science

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The WT Society, Global Warming, and the NWO

by lambsbottom in

was just looking at how many articles the wt put out around the time when al gore was pitching the global warming bs for his nwo (new world order) friends.. .

http://nypost.com/2013/12/05/global-warming-proof-is-evaporating/.

wt would rather jws to:.

besty

The NY Post article linked in the OP written by the lawyer turned journalist Michael Fumente is the kind of thing an algorithm for climate change denial would produce.

Lets make sure it has all the right variables:

1 - DO NOT use a climate scientist to author the article

2 - DO use a lawyer/journalist who has previously been fired for taking money from big business and then writing puff pieces to support their position

3 - DO not attempt to have your work published in the scientific literature

4 - DO use a low-credibility tabloid newspaper with a long history of controversy to publish your claims

5 - DO take a single type of local weather and short time frame as the premise for your article - in this case North American hurricanes in 2013

6 - DO confuse 'surface temperature' with 'global warming' - (you know the globe - that big round thing with atmospheres and oceans and stuff)

7 - DO cry foul when mainstream media starts to restrict oxygen to your 2% minority opinions

8 - DO be vague when accusing 'warmists' of things like predicting an increase hurricane activity - if needs be use Gore's bookcover illustration from 2005

9 - DO put "greenhouse gases" in quotation marks, so your audience know how laughable that term really is. Nudge nudge wink wink.

10 - DO make sure to conclude your article with the ideological reasons for your position - include words like Obama, American way of life

The WT Society, Global Warming, and the NWO

by lambsbottom in

was just looking at how many articles the wt put out around the time when al gore was pitching the global warming bs for his nwo (new world order) friends.. .

http://nypost.com/2013/12/05/global-warming-proof-is-evaporating/.

wt would rather jws to:.

besty

hi lambsbottom - welcome to JWN - would be interested to hear more about you and what brought you to an ex-JW forum. Pls stick around and keep posting.

Might I ask if you are an older white man? Perhaps with a more right of center outlook?

The reason I ask is that particular demographic is much more likely than average to have the kind of views you have on climate change.

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2011/jul/27/conservative-white-men-climate-sceptic

Just curious :-)

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Is asking questions of logic about a Global Flood effective in waking loved ones?

by BU2B in

jw
friends

i was thinking about using a tactic of asking questions revolving around "noahs flood" to try to start my wife doing some serious thinking.

unlike doctrine that cannot often be proven one way or another, this issue can be proven beyond the slightest doubt that it is impossible.. i was thinking about asking a question something like this "i was reading about coral reefs today, and they sure are amazing!

what amazed me the most is how long it takes for them to build the reef, and how long they live!

besty

http://corior.blogspot.com/2006/02/part-1-general-description-of-flood.html

this did a lot of damage to me when I was leaving - fantastic resource

good luck with your wife - see how she feels about The Mediator issue as well...

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New "Generations" WT Study Article in 2014??

by daringhart13 in

i see people mentioning this and have visited the site looking at all posted wt's.......i see no paragraph's discussing 'generations'....does anyone have any direction?.

besty

I doubt Mark Sanderson was claiming to be anointed at age 20 - that would have prevented him making progress in the Borg at that time for sure.

More likely they will rationalize it that 'he was always of the heavenly class' he just didnt know it earlier - therefore he is an overlapper.

There is no way they could have a GB not be in the special club.

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Hello, its good to be back, seriously!

by AllTimeJeff in

jw
friends

for the last year or so, the opening lyrics to gloria estefan's "always tomorrow" have been howling at me.. i've been alone inside myself, far too long.

never really wanted it that way, but i let it happen..... .

(btw, the message in that song is great for former jw's, if you want to think about the lyrics that way....).

besty

hi Jeff - good to see you back -you know - like friends :-)

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A radical direction for the WTS - speculation thread.

by besty in

what might the wts do to counteract growth stagnation and attrition?.

of course they could ditch certain teachings and practices such as blood, shunning and homophobia.. how about if they closed the kingdom hall network (all proceeds back to mothership) and built out more regional mega-churches?

<assembly halls>.

besty

thanks for the link bizzybee

dd - you funny guy :-)