I work in with medical records everyday. I do not know what the current stance on blood is from the WTBTS. But I do know, that YOU MAY NEVER DIVULGE A PATIENT'S HISTORY TO ANY UNAUTHORIZED SOURCE. And a body of elders IS NOT AN AUTHORIZED SOURCE. I consulted with one of my colleagues (hypothetically) on this, and she heartily reaffirmed. The ethics behind such a stance is that a human being must feel safe to pursue whatever medical treatment he/she may need--it's nobody's business but his and healthcare providers.
When one is hired for a position wherein they would be exposed to medical histories, they are posed with a hypothetical situation wherein their ethics are tested in this area. I cannot imagine UNLESS SOMEONE APPLYING OUTRIGHT LIES, that they would get hired, if they ever felt there was ANY CIRCUMSTANCE wherein they would feel the need to breech patient confidentiality.
I have personally had this ethic tested, and passed. It's simply nobody's business what medical treatment another human being pursues, or for what.
period.
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NOTIFY YOUR HOSPITAL & DOCTORS ABOUT JW SPYS
by MadApostate ini am sending this letter via email to both my local hospital and to several doctors (different version) who have occasion to treat my immediate family.. i thought that i would post such on the db so that others here could also do the same.
however, i would ask that you do not completely duplicate the letter, in the event that the same hospital or same doctor receive this more than once, and discard it as a hoax.
please take the time to change some of the wording, and personalize it to your own circumstances.. i will post any received replies, and i ask that others please do the same.. *****************************************.
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Did Bethel Really let 900 rescue workers...
by Esmeralda in...stay in their facilities?.
my sister just called me, with the idea of 'comforting' me wt style (bad idea *lol*) i shut her down by saying "i respect that these are your religious views, but they are not mine.
" that managed to shut her up finally.. before that, though she volunteered this info, i was wondering if anyone can confirm it?.
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Gumby,
And suicides. Massive depression that you cannot get treated.
It kills the soul.
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Do Not Call List
by anglise indo not call list.
an ex-jw in the uk has come up with a brainwave!!.
he canvassed his local area and came up with a signed list of several thousand householders who did not wish to be called on again by jehovahs witnesses.. this list was then handed to the local congregations and the london bethel who were then obliged to list all those households as do not calls.. has anyone else tried this?
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This is GREAT! I have copied the letter to print. I told my husband about it. He was never a JW or anything religiously. We just hate the invasion of our personal time as a family together. He was thrilled. We already tell all telephone soliciters to put us on their do not call list. He said probably a LOT of people would LOVE to know about this option.
I'm going to let everyone I know in on it. I've also thought that instead of taking it door to door, send it to people. My husband thought about flyers. But I've thought of e-mailing it to my church friends, who have HUGE address books, and share stuff like this all the time.
It's about freedom. The last thing we want on a Saturday or SUnday after a hard week's work is someone with an agenda coming to our door. We don't even answer for salesmen.
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Did Bethel Really let 900 rescue workers...
by Esmeralda in...stay in their facilities?.
my sister just called me, with the idea of 'comforting' me wt style (bad idea *lol*) i shut her down by saying "i respect that these are your religious views, but they are not mine.
" that managed to shut her up finally.. before that, though she volunteered this info, i was wondering if anyone can confirm it?.
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Good point, Gumby. I keep going back over and over again to the point that I was taught, by the WTBTS that no matter what kind of good you did, if you set yourself up as something you're not (god's true religion, as they applied to Christendom) that it really doesn't matter, if you lie. I used to look at the way they treated Catholics. Now, I'm no fan of the Catholic Church, but JW's would not even have the bible if it weren't for faithful monks who spent their whole lives transcribing. They had orphanages, Mother Theresa, schools, they feed the poor(we, as JW's when I was growing up were discouraged from even participating in canned food drives) Does any one else remember this? WE WERE DISCOURAGED FROM PARTICIPATING IN CANNED FOOD DRIVES FOR THE POOR! It used to kill me. I'm a rabid charity giver now.
Now, if they want to put on a good face, do a little non agenda charity work and if some hurting people benefit--Then great. Maybe they're even changing! But what they held out for Christendom applies to them. When you're lying, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if you do all the good in the world. You worship the kind of god that focuses on the negative. Look at the Catholic CHurch, it never mattered what good they had ever done, all they only focused on the fact that they lied and killed people. Which they did. The WTBTS lies, AND kills peoples' souls, and has been spiritually responsible for many deaths due to a not well thought out blood policy.
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Did Bethel Really let 900 rescue workers...
by Esmeralda in...stay in their facilities?.
my sister just called me, with the idea of 'comforting' me wt style (bad idea *lol*) i shut her down by saying "i respect that these are your religious views, but they are not mine.
" that managed to shut her up finally.. before that, though she volunteered this info, i was wondering if anyone can confirm it?.
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Seeker,
You wrote: "Well, their initial reaction was bad, and represents their true heart inclination
-- take care of themselves, and ignore everyone else."
To this, I say amen! I also agree with your sentiment, that if they're doing right, let's call it right. I think they were probably shamed into it, but whatever works. It doesn't have to diminish in anyway the pain of our experiences in the ORG--and the fact that they have a history of lying. IF they're changing, becoming less dogmatic, more loving--I say wonderful! Maybe they've read what we "dirty apostates" have said, maybe they're learning that you can't cut human beings off from each other. I think this is a good sign. You know, people, we speak for those who are in, who cannot speak for themselves. Maybe they are mainstreaming--I say GREAT for all the people who are still "in".
Make no mistake: the rank and file hold ALL the power here. Any religion, government, organization is subject to its people. No matter WHAT they try to say. And religions are especially dependant upon their adherants (they can't tax their people like a govt, adn so are dependant upon "donations" for fiscal survival--also they can't kill their people for "policing" them, like a govt). So most rely on fear to control their masses. When the people decide they've had ENOUGH, and the entity's (that is .the organization's) survival is at risk, they'll pretty much do whatever it takes to keep those people. Now, knowing that most of those in the ORG are loving at the individual level, they will demand that their organization reflect love. The organization will evolve to meet the demands of her converts, or she will perish. Either that, or she may attempt to find some way of making them fear (fear is so much more effective and easier) But looking at the history of religious movements, my money is on evolution of the organization. They're not the worst religion on the face of the earth. It seems they started out with fairly good intentions.
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Radar,
There is a neurologist, Dr. Neil Schraeder that is doing some pretty phenomenal research in the area of the power of the human mind. And it would appear that when you get a collective consciousness working toward the same goal (i.e, prayers to heal the sick) it really does work. I, myself, have seen spells work. It's all in our heads. BUT our "heads" are extremely powerful. I truly believe there's a scientific explanation for everything and what we call magick or miracles will be explained (already, quantum physics tells us a lot). There's a lot of research being done on the paranormal. One of my colleagues went to Duke University and told me they've got a whole section devoted to the research of the paranormal.
Anyway, I wish I had seen the program you're talking about.
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Goodbye
by troubled inafter much soul searching, i've decided to abandon this board.
i have learned a great deal, and what i've read has expanded my view.
so as i leave, i'll not be sorry for the time i spent here.
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Dear Troubled---
My fellow Denverite! Take heart on your journey. I hope you will return (or at least lurk). You are just one example of the humanistic good heartedness you find behind the walls of the WTBTS' dogma. There are many like you, I know. And I know they will not stay walled off forever. You cannot squelch the human spirit of love and compassion.
I often think of you, and will continue to do so. Is that you in line next to me at the grocery store? Sitting next to me in a traffic jam? Sitting in my waiting room?
Wherever you are, blessings,
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Radar,
I used a Ouji board once in 8th grade--I was shocked that because I was a Jehovah's Witness, it didn't sprout wings and fly off, or spontaneously combust. *sigh* nothing out of the ordinary happened. Now I regularly read Tarot, and use the pendulum. I use these mediums to access my subconscious or intuition. Often they are very insightful. I never use them to "tell the future", as I don't believe in that either. I have never had any attacks or even contact with "demons". Of course, I do not beleive in demons, the devil, or even god (in the classical, biblical sense), so that's probably why. It's all the human mind and your belief system. If your belief system is based on a fear, then you will probably manifest or attract things that are fearful.
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I was on radio today!
by Kent inhi folks!
i was this weeks guest on the norwegian radio today, in the broadcast for our county.
naturally they wanted to speak to me about many things, other than the jw related stuff, since im also running a small business magazine, and besides that im in fact a private person with my own interests.
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Kent,
Thanks for your diligence and hard work in this area. A lie is a lie is a lie. However, when you put yourself up as god's ONLY spokesperson on earth (as the Society has done on behalf of itself), you are particularly reprehensible--AND resonsible. The WTBTS taught me that :) Of course, they were applying it to the oh-so-evil Christendom, but the same scales apply to them, right?
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Mulan, Princess and Venice visit a mosque
by Mulan inon friday afternoon, the 3 of us were driving to the mall, and went past the mosque by my house (about a mile away).
there were large groups of muslims coming out, from friday afternoon prayers.
also there, were cars that had stopped to lay flowers by their sign, which had been defaced that day by some idiot.
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Dear Mulan and Co.
I am so glad you posted this. What a ray of hope as well as an example. I have been trying to think of ways to show support and love to those who may be suffering undue repurcussions because of this. We do not want to become the evil we puport to abhor.
Joel bear,
You are right most humans, in fact all of us are born, wanting to love one another. It's the few radicals that occasionally stir up trouble. Wouldn't it be great that, instead of this being a devisive thing, it turns out to be a uniting factor of humans within every organization, national boundary, etc. It kind of looks like that's the way it's shaping up. Those whose natural inclination is to love are doing so, and even some of the harder hearts are softening. No religion can wall off peoples' humanity forever.
Love,
B.