Posts by borgfree

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Anyone Near Dayton OH

by zenpunk in

i'm being flown out next week for a final interview and a tremendous job opportunity.

but before i sell the house and move - i was just wondering how many of you are out there and your opinions of the area (i will need some new good association).

also, i'm from the wilds of ny - do you think i can adjust to ohio?

borgfree

Hi Kingpawn,

I should know you, or you may know me. I am a little infamous around here. I left in the summer of 1992. You will find my name etc. in the profile.

Glad someone else from the great metropolitan city of Greenville is posting.

Borgfree

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A Newbie Introduction

by patricia in

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friends

i am a "newbie" that has been "lurking" and commenting on a couple of posts over the last six months.

i was somewhat intimidated by some of the comments on the board so i didn't feel comfortable in introducing myself.

since simon seems to be dealing with some of the more "aggressive" posters i felt the time had come to introduce myself.

I lived a life similar to what you describe in your opening post. I was born into a family of JWs in 1938, I was baptised at age 11 and really believed the teachings of the Orginazation, most of my life. I can feel a book sized post in the making because I have experienced so much of what you talk about, but, I will not make this post that long. I will give my personal experience leaving the WT, in the hopes of making my post more brief.

When I left the WT, I still thought, they were the only possible true organization, all the rest were of course, babylon the great. I knew something was very wrong in the organization and thought Jehovah would correct it in time, but I could not stand to be a part of it any longer. (too long here to give the reasons) I intended to just live my life the best I could and have nothing to do with "religion"

Because of some wonderful people, ex-jws, I attended an ex-jw conference, then went to a bigger ex-jw convention in Pennsylvania where I heard some very good talks, actual bible based talks, that changed everything for me. I did something I would have NEVER thought I would do in my life. I went to the alter and gave my life to our Lord and Savior, Jesus.

The Brother who encouraged me to give my life to our Lord was Eric Grieshaber, he told me at the time "your life will never be the same" he was absolutely right. At another ex-jw convention I was listening to a baptism talk given by Paul Blizard, I thought at that time I would not need to be re-baptised but, (for those of you who have heard Paul speak, you will understand) I changed my mind and was baptised, this time in the Name of The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit.

I have been very happy since taking those steps. There have been many troubles and problems of course, but my hope and faith is in our Savior, and I am happy to leave everything in His hands. Most of my family are still in the Borg of course, but I was sooo blessed and happy a little over a year ago when my son left the WT and also gave his life to our Lord.

I want to include what is known as the "sinners prayer" here. If you should feel the need, or if you are being drawn to the Lord, you may want to pray something like this. I have clipped it from the newspaper, it is only a guideline, you can use what words you choose to use.

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God's Plan of Salvation

1. Tell God that you realize you are a sinner, separated from Him because of your sin.

2. Tell God that you realize there is nothing you can do to earn your own salvation.

3. Tell God that you believe Jesus Christ died on the cross and shed His blood to pay the penalty for your sin.

4. Ask God to cleanse you from sin, because you accept His offer of salvation through Jesus Christ, and tell Him that you want Him to take control of your life.

When you pray this prayer of repentance and acceptance of Jesus Christ as your personal Savior, God will make you His child and the Holy Spirit will come to dwell within you.

__________________________________________________________________

That is something like the prayer I said when I gave my life to our Lord. I, like you, had a feeling I was close to Jehovah from the time I was a child. I have felt much closer to our God since taking the steps I mentioned above. I really fell the presence of our God in my life.

I hope my experience my be some help to you Patricia. I wish you all the best.

Borgfree (Roy)

Edited by - borgfree on 5 July 2002 10:20:43

51

For those who bash America

by puppylove in

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so how small does your "pee pee" have to be to stoop to bashing america on a jw support board?.

feeling rather put upon for america's sake, living in new york city, feeling like bashing in the brains of anyone who says that americans going about their daily routines "brought this (9/11) upon themselves".

i will always remember the day i looked out my window at work and saw over 3,000 people dying..

borgfree

I do not think our government is without flaws, but I guess I agree with the old saying "Our government is the worst possible on the earth, except for all of the others.

Borgfree

51

For those who bash America

by puppylove in

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friends

so how small does your "pee pee" have to be to stoop to bashing america on a jw support board?.

feeling rather put upon for america's sake, living in new york city, feeling like bashing in the brains of anyone who says that americans going about their daily routines "brought this (9/11) upon themselves".

i will always remember the day i looked out my window at work and saw over 3,000 people dying..

borgfree

cellomould,

To me it is a derogatory word. There have been quite a few Socialist governments around the world. I think they all have proven to be rotten governments. Just like Communism, Socialist governments are not what the true definition of the word would indicate.

Socialists tend to also be "liberal" The word liberal is good, and the practice of being liberal is good, but, the "liberals" who are also mostly Socialists are not good, they choose to be liberal with everyone elses money, property etc. not liberal with their own money. etc. (like robinhood they choose to take from some and give to others, as they choose. Maybe a better name for liberals would be Hoods)

This country was built by individualists. Strong people who could earn their own way and only wanted "government" to stay out of their way.

That's how I see it.

Borgfree

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For those who bash America

by puppylove in

jw
friends

so how small does your "pee pee" have to be to stoop to bashing america on a jw support board?.

feeling rather put upon for america's sake, living in new york city, feeling like bashing in the brains of anyone who says that americans going about their daily routines "brought this (9/11) upon themselves".

i will always remember the day i looked out my window at work and saw over 3,000 people dying..

borgfree

"Dennis Miller"

Another find example of a Socialist American.

Borgfree

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For those who bash America

by puppylove in

jw
friends

so how small does your "pee pee" have to be to stoop to bashing america on a jw support board?.

feeling rather put upon for america's sake, living in new york city, feeling like bashing in the brains of anyone who says that americans going about their daily routines "brought this (9/11) upon themselves".

i will always remember the day i looked out my window at work and saw over 3,000 people dying..

borgfree

"eminent American comedian George Carlin"

That explains a lot.

Borgfree

49

I'm Gone

by TR in

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those who want to keep in touch via email certainly are welcome to.. i've just had it up to my gills with anti-american b.s., and i have little if any interest in jw issues lately with the exception of silentlambs.. see ya.. tr.

borgfree

I understand your feelings TR, I asked for my name to be removed from another board because of the anti-American, anti-Israel attacks there.

I am very pro-American and get tired of the attacks on this country by people who do not even have a clue of what is going on, they have just convinced themselves that they do.

Borgfree

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Anyone Near Dayton OH

by zenpunk in

i'm being flown out next week for a final interview and a tremendous job opportunity.

but before i sell the house and move - i was just wondering how many of you are out there and your opinions of the area (i will need some new good association).

also, i'm from the wilds of ny - do you think i can adjust to ohio?

borgfree

Hi zenpunk,

I am in Greenville about 30 miles from Dayton. I work in downtown Dayton. There are several who post here that live in the Dayton area, and some others who do not post here.

Borgfree

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BRCI Conference Report

by Amazing in

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okay everyone ... here are some highlights from this weekend's brci conference held in itasca, illinois, close to chicago o'hare airport.

it was two full days, from friday at 9:00 am to 7:00 pm and sat.

9:00 am to 9:00 pm.

borgfree

Amazing,

Thanks for the review. A few months after leaving the WT, I went to a BRCI conference in the Atlanta area. Everyone was very helpful. I will always be thankful for the help they gave me, and, two sons-in-law who had just left with me.

I have attended three of their conferences and would like to someday attend more, if I am able. I usually choose the two I most want to attend each year and those are Pinecrest,CA. and New Ringgold, PA. I just cannot fit in more than that right now.

I agree with the things you said in your review. They are non-judgemental and kind and thoughtful. As they always say, some are there for a short time and then move on. I have, I guess, moved on to a more Christian church kind of life, but will always hold very fond memories of all at BRCI.

Borgfree

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John Chapter 3. How does it jive with JWs?

by FetterFree Annie in

can anyone answer a serious question?

since jws set so much store by bible study etc., i was wondering how they explain away john chapter 3. specifically where jesus tells nicodemus you have to be born again by the spirit of god in order to enter the kingdom of heaven.

while i'm here i would also like to know about eph 2:5,6. it seems to me they work like trojans in order to attain a place in paradise- but this verse clearly states we are saved by god's grace and not our works.

borgfree

As someone pointed out to me, JWs believe:

Faith + Works = Salvation

A Christian knows the true salvation is:

Faith + Salvation = Works

Borgfree