Posts by TheListener

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9/11 Pentagon video released, shows explosion and no plane

by What-A-Coincidence in

as shown on cnn: no plane on video from hotelhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atj5sute0oq.

no big plane aa77 on pentagon videos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4fjdamiffi.

removing evidence and witnesses: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjejip_47tq.

TheListener

A few questions that this thread brought to mind (some mentioned by others already):

1. If it was a conspiracy why did the conspirators use real planes for the WTC and not for the Pentagon? (brought up by another poster earlier in the thread)

2. Were there passengers/crew on the WTC planes?

3. Was the Pennsylvania flight part of the conspiracy?

4. Were there passengers/crew on the Pennsylvania flight?

5. Are there absolutely no pictures that show a plane before/during/after hitting the pentagon? or video?

6. Has anyone from the government, who is in a position to leak information, done so?

I would really appreciate answers to these questions.

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What do you tell your kids about you're exit or near to exit WTS ?

by Ancientofdays in

in the last year i made myself aware of wts.

then i resigned from elder, i stopped service , i stopped family study, but i'm still a formal jw.

my wife is still a convinced jw, and we often "discuss" (really sometime we scream a bit too much).

TheListener

I'm so sorry Candidly.

I dread the day my children get baptized. I can hardly take it when they attend the meetings.

At each step the organization gets its hooks in a little deeper; meeting attendance, commenting, field service, TMS talks, baptism, etc etc etc.

The best point to save someone is before all of that begins.

This thread is freaking me out!! I better work harder and smarter at this.

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What do you tell your kids about you're exit or near to exit WTS ?

by Ancientofdays in

in the last year i made myself aware of wts.

then i resigned from elder, i stopped service , i stopped family study, but i'm still a formal jw.

my wife is still a convinced jw, and we often "discuss" (really sometime we scream a bit too much).

TheListener

LeslieV, thanks for your experience. I needed to hear that today.

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Help! they're giving me a talk #4 entittled:" IDENTIFYING APOSTATES"

by dark angle in

this is quite awkward for me to give!

our elder gave me that assignment last week and should be delivered next week on the theocratic ministry school.

considering i have very unconventional views for the wts about blood, evolution, bible, and the gb, delivering this talk seemd quite maladroit.

It's not often that someone is so direct and frank from the platform. A lot of the TMS speakers tend to softpeddle the truth. Hopefully your presentation will cause some to think about the organization they're a part of.

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What do you tell your kids about you're exit or near to exit WTS ?

by Ancientofdays in

in the last year i made myself aware of wts.

then i resigned from elder, i stopped service , i stopped family study, but i'm still a formal jw.

my wife is still a convinced jw, and we often "discuss" (really sometime we scream a bit too much).

TheListener

This is a really tough question and situation.

Based on your post I assume you don't want your kids to choose being dubs unless they've heard the pros and cons of being one.

What you say and how you say it really depends on your relationship with your wife and other dub family members. Kids aren't real good at keeping secrets. So whatever you tell them will get around. If you don't mind getting disfellowshipped or having your wife really angry with you and quite possibly being labeled an apostate there are many things you can do.

Do you currently plan on remaining a christian? If so, you could find some literature (both hard copy and online) aimed at christian parents and children. For the younger one an example would be WhitsEnd.org. For yourself family.org may be helpful as well.

Whether remaining a christian or not I recommend teaching your children to think for themselves. Teach them critical thinking abilities. I use television commercials aimed at children as a prime way to accomplish this. If you want more detail on that feel free to pm me. Your witness wife shouldn't object as long as you don't use the WTS in a direct reference.

I also make sure my children understand that anyone who says they have all the answers DOESN'T.

Good luck.

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I didn't know where to post this..

by I.Wonder in

but i was wondering if there are any good threads or resources that discuss who the faithful and discreet slave really is.

not what the watchtower says but what the bible is really saying.

does the bible identify this "slave"?.

TheListener

It's in the WTS literature.

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My Bethel Experience part 7

by new boy in

jw
friends

people would ask me "how long do you plan on staying at bethel" i would say "forever!.....or 4 years which ever comes first" .

besides the about 48 hours you worked there a week, you would have other duties too.

there was dish duties.

TheListener

Ahhhhh the memories.

Thanks New Boy.

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Anyone from Harrisburg, Pennsylvania area?

by AuldSoul in

jw
friends

please pm me if you would like to meet up.. auldsoul.

TheListener

Hey Auld Soul.

How is everything going? Good to see you posting.

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More JW Folklore, Enjoy

by moomanchu in

sent to me by my jw relatives.. is this for real ??????????

from a brother in kansas.. this was an experience from japan, as told by a circuit overseer: .

jehovah's witnesses were doing street work and placed some magazines with a man.

TheListener

I received that one several months ago. yuck.

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Is this the best board for a "fader"?

by Billzfan23 in

jw
friends

there are a few anti-jw boards out there.

do you have any others that you frequent besides this one?

any favorites?

TheListener

I've checked out several other places. This board is my favorite. It contains a balance of biblical discussion which is directly related to be a jw, current events and helpful advice for leaving and helping loved ones leave.

This board saved my life.