slimboyfat
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If you have a question maybe I can help doctor of theology and one of Jehovah's witnesses
by Jehovahisgod inmy name is ari matthew davies.
i am a life experience consultant counselor i have a doctor's degree theology psychology clinical addictions and computer sciences.
i am also baptized as well as jehovah's witnesses.. if you have a question i've got a lot of experience and a lot of real life training.
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Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body
by WingCommander inthis has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.
this is not a joke.
anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!
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slimboyfat
First you said that “all” Raymond Fran’z articles were “omitted”. That’s false.
When this was pointed out to you you claimed they were “rewritten”.
As anyone can see by comparing the “overseer” entries above, much of the same material was used including the original wording.
And you’ve completely ignored the points Jeffro made about the chronology article:
Though there are some significant alterations to the versions of the Chronology articles in Aid and Insight, there is no evidence that 'those are the bits Franz wrote' (or that the remaining parts are the bits he didn't write). Most of the omissions relate to weak apologetics that raise more questions than they resolve (especially inconvenient after the publication of The Gentile Times Reconsidered), as well as material that is already covered in other articles such as 'Persians', or that was too outdated by the time Insight was written.
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Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body
by WingCommander inthis has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.
this is not a joke.
anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!
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slimboyfat
Your original claim was that “all of Franz's articles were omitted“. That’s simply not true. You’ve had four different posters tell you as much. Far from all his articles being omitted, you’ve not been able to find a single article of his that was omitted.
So you’ve changed the goal posts and wasted a lot of time.
Now instead, to save your blushes, you say articles Raymond Franz wrote were “edited”. Many articles were shortened and updated for the Insight books. That’s different than being “omitted”. You’ve presented no evidence the material Raymond Franz wrote was given omitted. There is no evidence, because it wasn’t.
The entries for “Overseer” in the Aid book and the Insight books respectively can be compared on the links below. The Insight entry is shorter, with much of the same material, and in no reasonable sense of the word “omitted”.
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Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body
by WingCommander inthis has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.
this is not a joke.
anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!
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slimboyfat
When I arrived on the forum there were many posters who knew the history of Watchtower inside out, sadly many of them now departed, not only from the forum but from this life. You couldn’t get more knowledgeable on Watchtower history than AlanF for example, and James Woods who knew Ed Dunlap personally. Larc and Farkel and of course Leolaia and many more could be mentioned. These people not only knew about Watchtower history - some of them had front row seats. We don’t have so many detailed discussions about the history any more. I don’t know if it’s because few are left who know or care about Watchtower history, but it is a noticeable shift on the forum.
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Would I be disfellowshiped for this?
by ExBethelitenowPIMA inif a publisher openly told the elders that they thought the gb were wrong about some or a lot of things, but said they will not share these thoughts with anyone else then would this be a case of disassociation disgfellowship?.
my guess is lots of elders meetings and shepherding calls to try to get you to say something they could use against you.. but what would be the sin in which you are not repented?.
the only reason to be dissed is non repentance?.
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slimboyfat
ExBethelitenowPIMA - I did that in almost exactly those words and I wasn’t disfellowshipped at the time. Other situations may vary! Lots of other factors involved such as your existing relationship with the elders, the congregation, whether they think you’re important enough to be a threat (I wasn’t) and more …
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Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body
by WingCommander inthis has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.
this is not a joke.
anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!
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slimboyfat
Disillusioned JW - The Commentary on the Book of James is in the library. The nearest thing to censorship around it was parts of it being rewritten before its publication at the insistence of Fred Franz, as documented by Raymond Franz. (He includes pictures of the redrafts) The information from Raymond Franz is very interesting in terms of what changes were made, but I don’t know if it was particularly unusual for drafts to be rejected and rewritten. Raymond Franz thought it was noteworthy, but he was only at the headquarters for around 15 years. Frederick Franz was editor in chief of Watchtower publications for more than half a century.
Edit: I just checked the James book isn’t in the online library though was on the CD ROM, don’t know why.
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Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body
by WingCommander inthis has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.
this is not a joke.
anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!
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slimboyfat
vienne it’s a bit graceless not to even acknowledge responses from me or Jeffro. I know it’s not pleasant to be wrong, but I hope when others point out a mistake I make that I will be thankful to them for correcting a wrong idea I had, and have the respect and the self confidence to express it.
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Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body
by WingCommander inthis has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.
this is not a joke.
anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!
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slimboyfat
It certainly looks like the intention is not to say anything about it. Even if they were inclined to say something, their cautious nature might inhibit them from naming AMIII in any comments in case it provides scope for litigation. The closest we might come are generalised segments relating to particular sins or about coping with disappointment when appointment men let the congregation down.
To find out what happened we really need leaks from people in the know or from AMIII himself. It is possible that very few people actually know the details, such as his close family and the GB members, which I guess might explain why it’s taking so long to come out.
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Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body
by WingCommander inthis has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.
this is not a joke.
anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!
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slimboyfat
Your original claim was:
When the Aid book was reissued as Insight, all of Franz's articles were omitted.
Now you say:
Articles that were verifiably his were the lengthy article on chronology, article on overseers. They are omited or rewriten for Insight.
The Aid articles on “chronology” and “overseers” were retained in the Insight volumes. Anyone can check for themselves that they are not “omitted” (your first claim) and that minor revisions were common in the Insight books compared with the Aid book.
People who know about the history of the Raymond Franz and the Watchtower know that the remarkable thing is that Watchtower continued to rely on the material Raymond Franz wrote to support Watchtower chronology even after he himself no longer believed it. It is because this fact is so well known that multiple readers of this thread picked you up on your inaccuracy.
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Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body
by WingCommander inthis has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.
this is not a joke.
anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!
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slimboyfat
Nice attempt to shift the burden of proof there.
You are the one who claimed Raymond Franz’s articles were removed. That’s not true. Or where is your evidence?