Usually yes, but in this case they seem to be talking about organisms themselves playing a part in their own evolution through an act of will, thereby in a sense “intelligently designing” their progeny. Just another example of how evolution may be more complicated and in important ways different than traditionally conceived. Weinstein also makes the point that advocates of intelligent design, however conceived, are modern day heretics, and heretics perform the important function of keeping unfashionable ideas in the mix of available explanations that may provide useful elements in the future.
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Physically in mentally agnostic ie sitting on the fence
by ExBethelitenowPIMA inhi everyone i’m not pimi or pimo i’m pima.. i don’t think the gb have everything right but i’m sitting on the fence that maybe they do some things.. if the great trib starts i will jump that side of the fence.. this is a definite little sneaky advantage dodging but even by their own doctrine last min some could come in.. i suspect many are like me.. i spent years in bethel and am very disappointed and disillusioned by it all.. but at the end of the day i love the bible and think it is the word of god and i don’t see any other religion that comes as close to what jesus describes his true followers or who are fulfilling mat 24:14..
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1975 on the back burner
by Fisherman in“1975” still marks 6000 years from the creation of adam in wt calendar.
according to “all scriptures inspired” book, there is a gap between the creation of adam and the creation of eve and her marriage to adam.
it was at that point in time when eve was created that marked the end of the 6th creative day and the beginning of god’s rest, the 7th day as recorded in genesis.
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slimboyfat
According to the Genesis account Adam was 130 when they had their first child, so that sets the absolute limit of the delay between the creation of Adam and Eve at 129 years. That would put the latest date for the 6000-year anniversary of the creation of Eve at 2104. That would be 190 years after the Gentile Times ended in 1914 – quite a stretch.
One or the (many ) issues that Fred Franz never really properly addressed however, when compiling his Bible chronology, is the fact that 130 years sounds like a suspicious round number, as do many of the figures in Genesis. Any modern statistician would consider the fact that we are presented with so many round numbers as strong evidence that we are dealing with estimates or rounded up figures (setting aside the possibility that the numbers are not even intended to be taken literally at all) which cumulatively can lead to a fairly substantial margin of error. Franz’s answer to this objection was that he believed God wouldn’t have provided the figures if they could not be used to compile an accurate chronology. But this assumes he is correct that it was God’s intention that an accurate chronology could be derived from them, an assumption for which he doesn’t offer any support.
If I recall correctly, I think Franz also offered the suggestion that the errors in the rounded up figures probably cancel out. This would depend how you round up the numbers. If the numbers are rounded to the nearest ten then maybe they do largely cancel out. (134 and 126 are both rounded to 130) But if the numbers are rounded to the preceding ten that could build up to a substantial difference. (134 rounded to 130 but 126 rounded to 120) Even if the more accurate rounding method was used, that would still allow for an overall margin of error a number of years in total.
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Physically in mentally agnostic ie sitting on the fence
by ExBethelitenowPIMA inhi everyone i’m not pimi or pimo i’m pima.. i don’t think the gb have everything right but i’m sitting on the fence that maybe they do some things.. if the great trib starts i will jump that side of the fence.. this is a definite little sneaky advantage dodging but even by their own doctrine last min some could come in.. i suspect many are like me.. i spent years in bethel and am very disappointed and disillusioned by it all.. but at the end of the day i love the bible and think it is the word of god and i don’t see any other religion that comes as close to what jesus describes his true followers or who are fulfilling mat 24:14..
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slimboyfat
Conversation between Brian Keating and Eric Weinstein on something he calls “intelligent design”, among other things. When current evolutionary theory is replaced by another paradigm it will be something new, not a return to an old paradigm because that’s the way it goes in science.
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Mass Shooting at Kingdom Hall in Hamburg, Germany
by EdenOne inmass shooting at a kingdom hall in hamburg, germany this evening.
at least 6 or 7 killed, dozens injured.
single shooter on the run, police doesn't rule out more shooters.
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This is terrible. I feel like physically going to the next meeting in solidarity. But I could understand if JWs in general are frightened to go to the KH now. Perhaps the GB will make a worldwide call that meetings this weekend be held on Zoom and safety measure be quickly put in place for the next physical meetings. In reality this was probably a one off incident and attending the KH will not be more dangerous going forward, but it’s understandable if people don’t feel safe. It could have been worse if it was at an assembly or convention. I don’t know about guns at all but it sounds like a lot of people dead from the number of shots. Did the person have a lot of practice shooting somehow? If so I wonder where an exJW got that experience.
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Mass Shooting at Kingdom Hall in Hamburg, Germany
by EdenOne inmass shooting at a kingdom hall in hamburg, germany this evening.
at least 6 or 7 killed, dozens injured.
single shooter on the run, police doesn't rule out more shooters.
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slimboyfat
According to the JW website 6 different congregations meet here: Croatian, Romanian, Twi, Tagalog, English and German. It was the German congregation that was meeting tonight.
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Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body
by WingCommander inthis has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.
this is not a joke.
anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!
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slimboyfat
Swinger lol! You mean Swingle 😉
I think they do remove announcement after a period. For example, I don’t think the announcement about the new GB members, Fleegle and Winder is still up, is it? In this case it’s just a bit odd they removed it so quickly. Who knows what’s going on!
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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Me too, I agree with you. Have you tried the Christadelphians?
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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slimboyfat
“Physically in, mentally agnostic” - he’s started a whole new paradigm!
Personally I’d like to try PAMO, “physically agnostic, mentally out” just to see what it feels like 🙂
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Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body
by WingCommander inthis has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.
this is not a joke.
anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!
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slimboyfat
There was a suggestion earlier in the discussion that there was a back and forth, hint of disagreement between Morris and Lett in a recent broadcast (was it from the annual meeting?). I’d like to hear more about that, or a link to the videos. Can anyone point us there? In the absence of anything else, it might provide some clue about why Morris is no longer on the GB.
Personally I think the possibility of alcoholism and associated anti-social behaviour may be behind his removal. Because even on camera he shows some signs of lack of control in what he says and how he says it. He also shows some indications of trauma from his time in Vietnam that would be consistent with alcohol addiction or dependence. I can easily imagine that he would be a difficult person to deal with in meetings. If that was partly fuelled by alcohol then that would give the other GB members justification for warning and then removing him. I acknowledge this is speculation and I don’t claim otherwise, just that it’s a plausible explanation that fits with what we know about Morris.
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Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body
by WingCommander inthis has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.
this is not a joke.
anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!
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slimboyfat
Two weeks on and still no real information on what happened. Strange!