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  Short-sighted WT ?

  by Tech49 in

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  it has always struck me that wt is so very short-sighted in many things.

  often, they are very re-active, and not so much pro-active in their reasoning and the way they plan for the future.. just thinking today, and have kicked this one around for a while now.. is the watchtower organization truly sustainable?

  is a new monetary structure on the horizon?

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  slimboyfat

  Tech I agree with your analysis 100%. Have you read my oeuvre on this topic? I encourage you to look into my oeuvre.

  In fact I wouldn’t dignify selling assets by calling it a “business model”. It is a firesale. It’s the absense of a business model. What will they do when the money runs out?

  I would add to your post that there is a lot more cuts they could make and assets they could sell. They still have around 20,000 employees in branches worldwide. If they are not publishing books and magazines any more, then what do they need so many employees for? For all their administration and video production, wouldn’t a couple of thousand suffice? So a lot more lay offs and branch sales may be in the pipeline. And KHs too. The only real question is will they manage it in an orderly fashion or will it be a disorderly crash?
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  Do You Condemn Anti-Semitism?

  by minimus in

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  i do .

  for me , it’s a nobrainer!.

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  slimboyfat

  The police escort protected the MP from now-Nazis. So not an example of Labour anti-semitism, obviously. Pretty weird that this should be offered as evidence of Labour anti-semitism.

  Where are the examples of anti-semitism abuse from members of the Labour Party? You’d think there would be tons of examples the way they talk about it on the news, but they never quote any actual instances.
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  Do You Condemn Anti-Semitism?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
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  i do .

  for me , it’s a nobrainer!.

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  slimboyfat

  So is this all they mean when they talk about bullying and “vile abuse”? I thought it meant more than debate about criticising Israel. I thought it meant Larbour people actually calling Jewish people names and targeting them. That’s the impression I got from the news. But no actual examples.
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  Do You Condemn Anti-Semitism?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
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  i do .

  for me , it’s a nobrainer!.

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  I am aware that Jeremy Corbyn has supported Palestinians and this is controversial for some. There is lots of footage and evidence of this. Similar complaints are made about his support for Irish Republicans. People make up their own mind about that.

  Is that all they mean when they talk about Labour anti-semitism? Because I heard accusations of attacks, “vile abuse” and bullying. Are there any examples of this?
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  Do You Condemn Anti-Semitism?

  by minimus in

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  i do .

  for me , it’s a nobrainer!.

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  The people making the accusations seems to be Blairites and others on the right of Labour who don’t wish to see Jeremy Corbyn become prime minister.

  But aside from motives and intrigues, I am actually interested to know what are they are talking about when they say some in Labour are anti-Semitic. Isn’t it customary to show some examples or evidence? I haven’t seen any. Where is it?
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  Do You Condemn Anti-Semitism?

  by minimus in

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  i do .

  for me , it’s a nobrainer!.

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  slimboyfat

  Can anyone show any examples of Labour anti-semitism?
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  Do You Condemn Anti-Semitism?

  by minimus in

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  i do .

  for me , it’s a nobrainer!.

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  Are there examples of Labour members being anti-Semitic? I always hear the accusation in the news, but never any examples. It’s weird. What are they actually talking about?

  I have no problems with Labour factionalism. It helps the cause of independence as Labour look set for wipeout in Scotland. Corbyn did a u-turn on supporting an independence referendum too.
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  Question? How Many Hours of Field Service Does it Take

  by new boy in

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  currently, to create one new jehovah's witness convert?.

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  It’s something of a puzzle to me just how ineffective JW preaching is nowadays. You would think that JWs would acquire at least some extra followers just by being so visible publicly and calling on lonely people from time to time. And it’s particlarly puzzling because it seems that their preaching was quite effective at one time. From listening to older members of the congregation, there were many converts to JWs in the 1950s through to the 1970s from the door to door work, a few in the 1980s, and hardly anything since. What went wrong? Their methods haven’t changed all that much, so why is the outcomes so drastically different?

  I have a few ideas, but I’d be interested to hear what others think:

  1. Society itself has changed and people are just not interested in the Bible any more or joining a church,

  2. There is more information available to refute JW teachings these days.

  3. JWs have lost their urgency and don’t really believe the end is near.

  4. Additionally I think many JWs are fatigued by JW lifestyle and simply not terribly eager to drag others in. I recall a candid comment from someone that they wouldn’t necessarily recommend becoming a JW to anyone not already in it. Subconsciously I wonder how many JWs really feel this way. Very few JWs make great efforts to drag other family members, work colleagues, neighbours and friends, to the KH, as once was more common. So no wonder their efforts to actually convert householders is often halfhearted.
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  Question? How Many Hours of Field Service Does it Take

  by new boy in

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  currently, to create one new jehovah's witness convert?.

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  slimboyfat

  I made a post on this and it got lost. Gutted. Ha!
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  How Long Will YOU Identify As A Jehovah’s Witness?

  by minimus in

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  some witnesses realize that they got into a religion and it turned out to be disastrous.

  many decide they have to somehow get out.

  some do it right away and others take longer.. where are you in your journey?

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  slimboyfat

  There should be room for recognition that people are at different stages and that everyone’s view is evolving rather than static. The absolute position that the only moral thing to do as an elder is resign immediately upon discovering the “truth” runs into a few problems. Such as how immediate is immediately? The same day, or within a month, or a year? Time to make it a good exit, or exit as soon as possible regardless of the consequences?

  And is there any specific point of time when one learns the “truth” anyway? My view of JWs has been a constant evolution for more than two decades. Maybe some people can identify the exact day when their views changed radically, while for others it was a long gradual process with multiple points of acceptance and rejection of previous beliefs along the way.

  I struggle to have too much respect for non atheists.But I try.

  Wow. I struggle to have respect for people who have no respect for the views of others. Because I find the world such an amazingly complex and inscrutable dwelling place that I find little room for insisting upon or absolutely excluding other possible interpretations of our situation. In fact I find it difficult not to view absolute certainty in such matters as a sign of stupidity or personality problem, but as I say I struggle to keep an open mind, even on this.