jwleaks it seems that's the training JWs a.ready get for how to behave at carts anyway, they don't need any apostates to tell them that's how to do it.
slimboyfat
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JW Carts Cause Thousands to Start Studying!!!
by Drifting Away ini would love to know the stats of how many hours were spent, standing by a cart, or sitting at a local town fair with jw table tent set up, compared to the number of bible studies started that led to baptism since the inception of the carts.
anyone have any idea?
if i had to guess i would say thousands of hours pent standing by a cart, and maybe less then 5 that actually got baptized.
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JW Carts Cause Thousands to Start Studying!!!
by Drifting Away ini would love to know the stats of how many hours were spent, standing by a cart, or sitting at a local town fair with jw table tent set up, compared to the number of bible studies started that led to baptism since the inception of the carts.
anyone have any idea?
if i had to guess i would say thousands of hours pent standing by a cart, and maybe less then 5 that actually got baptized.
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slimboyfat
JW Witness carts cause thousands to start studying... their shoe laces until they've walked right past the religious fanatics without making eye contact.
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Why are there still so many of humanity that are immersed onto the lies, ignorance and delusions of religion ?
by Finkelstein inall religions under critical examination has been recognized inherently as formative lies devised to appeal to human emotions and as a means to cultivate power and control for a select propagating few.
knowledge acquired through scientific inquiry and evaluation has proven that all religious adherence was mostly drawn out human ignorance targeted toward the emotions and consciousness of people.
here we are in the 21 century and people like the jws are still adhering to the lies of christianity and how this religion developed over time.
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slimboyfat
I meant to simply summarise the first post.
But before Viv tells me, I've completely misrepresented the post, because I'm a total liar and I don't know the definition of twenty different words, including the word "the", can I just say, at this point, from him, it's taken as read. So he needn't bother.
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BIG news Trump...His lewd conversation leaks.
by James Mixon inif he get pass this, america deserve him...... conversation 10 years ago..
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slimboyfat
I actually found it quite shocking to see excerpts from this debate. What is happening to America? How can you let this happen? And to see some Republicans including women defending Trump in the last few days. There is something deeply wrong.
The worst part was where Trump said he'd put Clinton in jail if he won. Is this how America does its politics now?
I think Clinton might have been better off not turning up to this so-called debate.
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The Org is Growing???? Really???????
by The Searcher inwatchtower january 2017 - par.
15 - "we live in exciting times.
the earthly part of jehovah’s organization is growing in many ways, but growth necessitates change.".
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slimboyfat
It's a bit premature to call decline yet.
As far as I'm aware the latest figures still show increases in publishers, pioneers, congregations, and probably some other figures.
Where they have stalled is memorial attendance in recent years, and branch numbers are in decline.
Maybe publisher numbers will start decreasing in the next couple of years. That would be real decline. But then they might not publish the numbers if that happens.
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Why are there still so many of humanity that are immersed onto the lies, ignorance and delusions of religion ?
by Finkelstein inall religions under critical examination has been recognized inherently as formative lies devised to appeal to human emotions and as a means to cultivate power and control for a select propagating few.
knowledge acquired through scientific inquiry and evaluation has proven that all religious adherence was mostly drawn out human ignorance targeted toward the emotions and consciousness of people.
here we are in the 21 century and people like the jws are still adhering to the lies of christianity and how this religion developed over time.
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slimboyfat
Religious beliefs of billions over thousands of years have been nothing but lies.
It's all control and manipulation.
Science has disproved religious claims.
Good grief, do you really believe all this?
You have more faith than I do!
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Which Org 'directives' did you blatantly ignore
by Tallon ini remember that we were always encouraged to let everyone at work know that you were one of jw's and therefore would not participate in any of their functions, parties etc.. this i outrightly refused to do.
my reasoning was that i was employed and paid to do a job and therefore my religious beliefs were a personal matter and therefore had nothing to do with my work.
secondly i had to work with these people.
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slimboyfat
I didn't mange to read the Bible every day.
Which reminds be of a joke,
A successful comedian says younger comedians on their way up approach him and ask his secret of success. He tells them it's two hours of Bible reading every day. He explains that it doesn't stop them completely but it slows them down.
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Amateurs built the Ark, professionals built the Titanic...Ben Carson
by James Mixon inlaughing my a-off watching the comedian lewis black and he mention what carson said, and i thought surely old ben didn't say that.
i b- damn, he said it.
black said " he said this in front of a lot of people and i'am surprise no one came up to him and said ben, you must come with us now"... .
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slimboyfat
What's this guy all about? Does he say amateurs should perform brain surgery too instead of professional surgeons?
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The "What Ifs" of Watchtower History
by slimboyfat incounterfactual histories (where historians or journalists imagine how it would have turned out if history had taken a different path at a crucial moment) have become really popular in recent years.
they have also gained greater academic credibility, having previously been dismissed as frivolous or analytically irrelevant by serious minded historians.
now even senior academic historians, such as richard evans, extol the virtues of counterfactual history as a way of exploring cause and effect, and distinguishing long term trends from serendipitous contingencies.
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slimboyfat
Well that's certainly the view of some historians, like Richard Evans. But Niall Ferguson and an increasing number of serious historians see merit in exploring counterfactuals.
Many of the arguments against counterfactuals are really arguments against bad counterfactuals. That is counterfactuals that are badly informed about real history, or counterfactuals that allow for too many simultaneous divergences from real history to the point where anything can happen. Focused and well informed counterfactuals can illuminate the causes and mechanisms in real history.
https://newrepublic.com/article/119357/altered-pasts-reviewed-cass-r-sunstein
I came across this interesting example from a prominent historian of Christianity - what if Arianism had won? (Maybe, one thing, there would have been no JWs)
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The "What Ifs" of Watchtower History
by slimboyfat incounterfactual histories (where historians or journalists imagine how it would have turned out if history had taken a different path at a crucial moment) have become really popular in recent years.
they have also gained greater academic credibility, having previously been dismissed as frivolous or analytically irrelevant by serious minded historians.
now even senior academic historians, such as richard evans, extol the virtues of counterfactual history as a way of exploring cause and effect, and distinguishing long term trends from serendipitous contingencies.
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slimboyfat
Counterfactual histories (where historians or journalists imagine how it would have turned out if history had taken a different path at a crucial moment) have become really popular in recent years. They have also gained greater academic credibility, having previously been dismissed as frivolous or analytically irrelevant by serious minded historians. Now even senior academic historians, such as Richard Evans, extol the virtues of counterfactual history as a way of exploring cause and effect, and distinguishing long term trends from serendipitous contingencies.
Among the most popular topics for counterfactual treatments, fiction and non-fiction, include:
What if the South had won the US civil war?
What if Kennedy hadn't been assassinated?
What if Hitler had been assassinated in 1939?
What if Al Gore had won the 2000 election instead of Bush?
What if Jesus hadn't been crucified?
I recently bought a book about counterfactuals relating to Jewish history that includes chapters on:
What if the Exodus never happened? (Irony of question acknowledged and explored)
What if the temple in Jerusalem had not been destroyed by the Romans?
What if Spinoza had repented?
What if Russian Jewry had never been confined to the Pale of Jewish Settlement?
What if the Jewish state had been established in east Africa?
What if Franz Kafka had emigrated to Palestine?
What if the final Solution had been completed?
What if the Holocaust had been averted?
Some counterfactuals seem so obvious as to naturally present themselves, whereas others hint at details, contingencies, and personalities that require a lot of background knowledge and analytical consideration.
So I wonder what a good set of counterfactuals in Watchtower history would look like. I'm trying to compile a list, so any suggestions or criticisms of my suggestions are welcome. A few ideas for interesting Wachtower counterfactuals:
What if Russell never met Nelson Barbour?
What if World War 1 didn't begin in 1914?
What if Fred Franz completed his college degree before joining the Watchtower?
What if A H MacMilllan took control in 1917 instead of Rutheford?
What if Rutherford didn't change their name to Jehovah's Witnesses in 1931?
What if Hitler wanted to reach agreement with JWs in 1933?
What if Raymond Franz had stayed in a Governing Body open to reform?
What if the Watchtower had never predicted the end in 1975?
What if New Testament manuscripts containing the divine name were discovered?
What if Armageddon had really come in 1975?
What if the Governing Body promoted higher education instead of denouncing it?
What if the Governing Body listened to Barbara Anderson instead of having her disfellowshipped?
What if church shunning practices were banned in the United States?