The Society has been working on the NWT Study Bible since the revised NWT was released in 2013. So far they done the NT up to Philemon. That makes about 17% of the entire Bible including the Hebrew/Aramaic scriptures. At that rate the Study Edition of the whole NWT will be completed sometime around the year 2077.
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Progress on the NWT Study Bible
by slimboyfat inthe society has been working on the nwt study bible since the revised nwt was released in 2013. so far they done the nt up to philemon.
that makes about 17% of the entire bible including the hebrew/aramaic scriptures.
at that rate the study edition of the whole nwt will be completed sometime around the year 2077. .
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The First Holocaust
by nicolaou inplease, please ignore all the scientific impossibilities here, that's not what this topic is about.. let's make the assumption as many christians do that the bible is historically accurate.
the noachian flood actually happened a little less than 4,500 years ago after which eight adults stepped off the ark to repopulate the planet.. that means that approximately 60 million lives had been snuffed out, a holocaust by anyone's estimation.
as if that isn't horrific enough just think about the babies, toddlers and young children god killed.. he drowned all of them, every single one.
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slimboyfat
nic I don’t know exactly what happened in past catastrophes and how closely the Bible narrative fits the facts. What I do think is that the universe and our place in it is an amazing miracle and that such a miracle as that didn’t just happen by itself and for no purpose. The one who is responsible for this miracle I think has some kind of plan that may be beyond my understanding. I trust that he knows better than me what he is doing, though that is hard to think at times. But what else should I conclude, that I a puny human have worked out the ethics of life and death and can teach the creator my conclusions? Surely it is possible, just possible, that although things seem one way to us, God may have a more comprehensive understanding of reality than we do. Instead of pointing the finger at God we need to look at ourselves and the misery we humans are causing to each other and what we can do to stop it.
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The First Holocaust
by nicolaou inplease, please ignore all the scientific impossibilities here, that's not what this topic is about.. let's make the assumption as many christians do that the bible is historically accurate.
the noachian flood actually happened a little less than 4,500 years ago after which eight adults stepped off the ark to repopulate the planet.. that means that approximately 60 million lives had been snuffed out, a holocaust by anyone's estimation.
as if that isn't horrific enough just think about the babies, toddlers and young children god killed.. he drowned all of them, every single one.
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KalebOutWest It’s possible that Genesis and Gilgamesh are both based on the same events. Just because they have features in common doesn’t mean they are not independent accounts. Plus an older account is not necessarily a better account. If we want to know what happened in World War One the latest academic monographs on the subject would be a reasonable and arguably preferable place to look, even though many older accounts are available.
Plus even if the author of Genesis was aware of an older Gilgamesh account of events his narrative can be read as a reaction against that tradition and an attempt to correct some errors that it spread. When people act as if dependence on Gilgamesh somehow settles the issue it seems to me they have not thought about the possibilities deeply enough. If you’re inclined to discount the Bible then I suppose the mere existence of Gilgamesh is enough to hastily conclude: derivative therefore nonsense. It’s a bit lazy and too convenient.
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The First Holocaust
by nicolaou inplease, please ignore all the scientific impossibilities here, that's not what this topic is about.. let's make the assumption as many christians do that the bible is historically accurate.
the noachian flood actually happened a little less than 4,500 years ago after which eight adults stepped off the ark to repopulate the planet.. that means that approximately 60 million lives had been snuffed out, a holocaust by anyone's estimation.
as if that isn't horrific enough just think about the babies, toddlers and young children god killed.. he drowned all of them, every single one.
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slimboyfat
Something like 70% of all birds are chickens.
That’s a poultry amount, if you ask me.
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The First Holocaust
by nicolaou inplease, please ignore all the scientific impossibilities here, that's not what this topic is about.. let's make the assumption as many christians do that the bible is historically accurate.
the noachian flood actually happened a little less than 4,500 years ago after which eight adults stepped off the ark to repopulate the planet.. that means that approximately 60 million lives had been snuffed out, a holocaust by anyone's estimation.
as if that isn't horrific enough just think about the babies, toddlers and young children god killed.. he drowned all of them, every single one.
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slimboyfat
The estimated population probably doesn’t take into account a literalist interpretation of Genesis, so perhaps not relevant to an evaluation of Genesis in its own terms. I’m not saying the figures make the difference but your specifying the numbers does make one wonder why you introduced the specific number as well as on what basis.
I am questioning the ethics of theoretical discussion about God’s culpability for mass killing in a context that we can’t fully understand if it did happen, rather than focussing on our own complicity here and now in a mass killing we have no excuse for remaining ignorant or indifferent about.
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Watchtower May 2024 Who is being referred to as 'we'?
by Listener inthis is the magazine that presents some of the 'new light' from the oct. 2023 annual meeting.
it discusses some of the things they have now decided they don't know and revised some of the things they do know, or think they know.
when they start discussing some of the things they do know, most of them are still guesses and they use qualifiers.
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slimboyfat
Yeah they always do that too. Same with 1975, it was just some brothers got carried away.
If they ever come out with, “in the past some brothers maintained 1914 was the end of the Gentile times”, they might just have a riot on their hands. Possibly.
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The First Holocaust
by nicolaou inplease, please ignore all the scientific impossibilities here, that's not what this topic is about.. let's make the assumption as many christians do that the bible is historically accurate.
the noachian flood actually happened a little less than 4,500 years ago after which eight adults stepped off the ark to repopulate the planet.. that means that approximately 60 million lives had been snuffed out, a holocaust by anyone's estimation.
as if that isn't horrific enough just think about the babies, toddlers and young children god killed.. he drowned all of them, every single one.
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slimboyfat
Where do you get the figure of 60 million?
The situation as described is intolerable. But we are humans, there may be things we don’t know or understand about what happened or why.
Plus what about the killing that is going on right now and that us humans could stop if we wanted to. That’s not God’s fault, that’s our fault. Is it easier to speculate on what might have happened thousands of years ago and plug it into a philosophical debate about God rather than face the real life situation that is going on right now and the culpability of humanity.
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What do Jehovah's Witnesses believe?
by Vanderhoven7 inthought this summary from helge kare fauskanger was well written and worth sharing.. "for starters, imagine a distinctly insular form of protestant fundamentalism minus the trinity (god and jesus are held to be separate beings, and the holy spirit is god's active power rather than a person).
note: since the witnesses want to think of their faith as something absolutely unique, they themselves will not agree that they are either protestant or fundamentalist.. * very important to call god by his proper name of jehovah, and as noted, you must not get him mixed up with jesus.
jesus is not part of the godhead but "actually" the first created being, through whom jehovah created the rest of the universe.
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slimboyfat
A few suggestions:
1. JWs say the holy spirit is a force not a power and maintain there’s a distinction.
2. It’s not just JWs who claim they aren’t Protestant, most Protestants would say they aren’t Protestants too.
3. JWs don’t have a “standard” view on sacrificial death and resurrection. They believe that Jesus was resurrected as a spirit being, not with a physical body. They also emphasise the Ransom as the mechanism for salvation rather than substitutionary atonement.
4. As I understand, it current JW teaching is that Jehovah is the judge and they can’t say for sure that others won’t survive Armageddon besides JWs. At various times it’s been suggested that uncontacted tribes in the Amazon and “people in China” might survive because they didn’t “get a witness”. With the very recent change in teaching the conception of who might survive is now possibly broader still.
5. Sparlock isn’t a recent cartoon. It’s about 15 years old now. People who remember it are probably adults by now.
It misses out some important stuff. Such as JWs refuse to fight in wars and have been the most imprisoned and persecuted religious group of the past century as a result.
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Appreciation post for Pam Grier
by LoveUniHateExams inyeah, i love pam grier.. she was great in jackie brown (1997).. and she can sing very well, too.. .
enjoy .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwmyb6nii48.
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slimboyfat
Appreciating someone still alive? How quaint. It’ll never catch on. 🙂
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Watchtower May 2024 Who is being referred to as 'we'?
by Listener inthis is the magazine that presents some of the 'new light' from the oct. 2023 annual meeting.
it discusses some of the things they have now decided they don't know and revised some of the things they do know, or think they know.
when they start discussing some of the things they do know, most of them are still guesses and they use qualifiers.
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slimboyfat
I can’t give examples but I think they’ve always done that. Sometimes in the third person too, such as when they say that JWs recognised the identity of the great crowd in the 1930s. What they mean is that Rutherford/Franz formulated this new idea in the 1930s and JWs accepted it. Since JWs always accept what the Society, and now the Governing Body tell them to think, it is intelligible, even if presumptuous from our perspective, to speak interchangeably about the Governing Body and JWs in general “realising”, “coming to understand”, “recognising” and so on, new ideas.