what’s keeping them?
this has got to be the latest it’s ever been.
maybe it’s the last one they’ll ever publish too, after dropping reporting hours for publishers ….
It’s much lower growth than they used to have but it’s much better than other churches. Still having growth 3% in Germany, 6% in Ireland, 2% in Austria, 6% in Czech Republic and so on is pretty remarkable at this point.
Yes they have decline across most of Latin America. I wonder what’s causing that.
what’s keeping them?
this has got to be the latest it’s ever been.
maybe it’s the last one they’ll ever publish too, after dropping reporting hours for publishers ….
Avoiding severe decline for any church in the secular western world is pretty extraordinary.
France, Britain, Germany up too. Yes some of it will be immigrants, but the overall ratio is climbing in these countries too. Plus other churches benefit from immigrants joining too, yet are still in decline.
uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
This is why that begging stunt was a bad idea, especially since he had absolutely no intention of making his channel better.
Yeah he basically said send me your money to keep the channel going, and then promptly all but abandoned the channel and ran off to spend the money. When are his backers going to wake up? Mind you these are the same people, some of them, who sent him money for years on the basis the it “all gets ploughed back into the channel”, yet were not fazed by his own admission that he spent it on prostitutes and drugs on a regular, semi-regular, or whatever, basis. For some of them, if that didn’t shake them off then perhaps nothing will.
what’s keeping them?
this has got to be the latest it’s ever been.
maybe it’s the last one they’ll ever publish too, after dropping reporting hours for publishers ….
Interesting, it seems to be mostly decreases all across the Americas in the western hemisphere and mostly increases elsewhere in eastern hemisphere including Europe. Big increases in Africa.
Overall it seems pretty volatile. There’s a 6% increase in Ireland - that seems a pretty large increase for a secularising country where JWs are long established.
Huge increases in the Congo and Nigeria and almost 1 million people attended the Memorial in Zambia, amazing in a country of only 20 million.
Number of congregations worldwide is up slightly on last year.
One percent decrease in the US has got to be psychologically deflating but they might have to get used to it because religion in general is in free fall.
But maybe they won’t publish the figures next year, and even if they do it will be counting a different thing as publishers report a “yes” rather than a number of hours each month.
what’s keeping them?
this has got to be the latest it’s ever been.
maybe it’s the last one they’ll ever publish too, after dropping reporting hours for publishers ….
The figures are out! O ye of the little faith 😁
uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
he could always become a mycoligist 😁
You can have him as yourcologist if you like but I don’t want him to be mycologist! 😁
uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
If he continues to lose 20 patrons or so a month then he’ll be down to pretty low numbers by the end of 2024. He might even need to get another job.
uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
Why is Canada called Canada? Because there’s nobody there. (German joke)
so when was jesus begotten.
was he truly and wholly fully human.
did he exist in two states, part human part god.
Christadelphians don’t believe Jesus had a prehuman life, that’s correct, but they do believe Jesus is the Word of John 1 because they believe the “Word” wasn’t personal, but a way of talking about God’s conception of Jesus in his own mind before he brought him into existence. I think. They share this view with other Unitarians of the Socinian variety in groups such as the Church of God of Abrahamic Faith, Sir Anthony Buzzard and others. Sam Tideman is great at explaining these things:
so when was jesus begotten.
was he truly and wholly fully human.
did he exist in two states, part human part god.
nicolaou I know that you know what Christians believe. But if you can pretend the OP doesn’t understand how babies form then I can pretend you don’t understand Christian beliefs, no? Seems like a rhetorical equivalent to me.
I think supernatural is hard to define because whatever God is could be described as natural or supernatural it just depends on your perspective. It seems to function as a descriptor of “things we don’t understand how they work”. Once they are explained they become natural. Are there things about reality we don’t yet understand, or possibly never can understand? Definitely. So I do believe in “supernatural” in that sense.
Happy new year to you too 🥳
