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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  This is why that begging stunt was a bad idea, especially since he had absolutely no intention of making his channel better.

  Yeah he basically said send me your money to keep the channel going, and then promptly all but abandoned the channel and ran off to spend the money. When are his backers going to wake up? Mind you these are the same people, some of them, who sent him money for years on the basis the it “all gets ploughed back into the channel”, yet were not fazed by his own admission that he spent it on prostitutes and drugs on a regular, semi-regular, or whatever, basis. For some of them, if that didn’t shake them off then perhaps nothing will.
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  Where’s the 2023 Service Report?

  by slimboyfat in

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  what’s keeping them?

  this has got to be the latest it’s ever been.

  maybe it’s the last one they’ll ever publish too, after dropping reporting hours for publishers ….

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  Interesting, it seems to be mostly decreases all across the Americas in the western hemisphere and mostly increases elsewhere in eastern hemisphere including Europe. Big increases in Africa.

  Overall it seems pretty volatile. There’s a 6% increase in Ireland - that seems a pretty large increase for a secularising country where JWs are long established.

  Huge increases in the Congo and Nigeria and almost 1 million people attended the Memorial in Zambia, amazing in a country of only 20 million.

  Number of congregations worldwide is up slightly on last year.

  One percent decrease in the US has got to be psychologically deflating but they might have to get used to it because religion in general is in free fall.

  But maybe they won’t publish the figures next year, and even if they do it will be counting a different thing as publishers report a “yes” rather than a number of hours each month.
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  Where’s the 2023 Service Report?

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what’s keeping them?

  this has got to be the latest it’s ever been.

  maybe it’s the last one they’ll ever publish too, after dropping reporting hours for publishers ….

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  The figures are out! O ye of the little faith 😁
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  slimboyfat

  he could always become a mycoligist 😁

  You can have him as yourcologist if you like but I don’t want him to be mycologist! 😁
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  2. friends

  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  slimboyfat

  If he continues to lose 20 patrons or so a month then he’ll be down to pretty low numbers by the end of 2024. He might even need to get another job.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  slimboyfat

  Why is Canada called Canada? Because there’s nobody there. (German joke)
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  Did Jesus have a pre-existence or was he fully human, begotten at his human birth.

  by gavindlt in

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  so when was jesus begotten.

  was he truly and wholly fully human.

  did he exist in two states, part human part god.

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  Christadelphians don’t believe Jesus had a prehuman life, that’s correct, but they do believe Jesus is the Word of John 1 because they believe the “Word” wasn’t personal, but a way of talking about God’s conception of Jesus in his own mind before he brought him into existence. I think. They share this view with other Unitarians of the Socinian variety in groups such as the Church of God of Abrahamic Faith, Sir Anthony Buzzard and others. Sam Tideman is great at explaining these things:

  https://youtu.be/tqTlnT-J6rk?si=SZvRvPPuV9NZyYt9
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  Did Jesus have a pre-existence or was he fully human, begotten at his human birth.

  by gavindlt in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  so when was jesus begotten.

  was he truly and wholly fully human.

  did he exist in two states, part human part god.

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  nicolaou I know that you know what Christians believe. But if you can pretend the OP doesn’t understand how babies form then I can pretend you don’t understand Christian beliefs, no? Seems like a rhetorical equivalent to me.

  I think supernatural is hard to define because whatever God is could be described as natural or supernatural it just depends on your perspective. It seems to function as a descriptor of “things we don’t understand how they work”. Once they are explained they become natural. Are there things about reality we don’t yet understand, or possibly never can understand? Definitely. So I do believe in “supernatural” in that sense.

  Happy new year to you too 🥳
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  Did Jesus have a pre-existence or was he fully human, begotten at his human birth.

  by gavindlt in

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  2. bible

  so when was jesus begotten.

  was he truly and wholly fully human.

  did he exist in two states, part human part god.

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  nicolaou, Christians know how babies are made, but they believe that Jesus was different because Mary became pregnant because of the power of holy spirit rather than the usual way.

  To answer the question, the NT teaches that Jesus was a human and is the mediator between the “one God” and humans. Jesus was with God in heaven before he came to earth.

  1 Tim 2.5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus

  John 17.5 And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began
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  Did God know adam and eve would sin?

  by gavindlt in

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  to all those on this forum, i would love to know what your take on this vital question is..

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  God chose not to know.

  Have you ever been shocked in a dream? As in running away from someone, running around a corner and BAM! they’re right there. What a shock! Did you know they’d be round the corner? Obviously not, or you wouldn’t have woken up in such a fight. But where did the dream come from? Your own mind surely. So did you know what was round the corner? On some level the mind knew it and didn’t know it at the same time. It’s the only way to explain how your mind both produced the dream and was shocked by the dream at the same time. On some level your mind chose not to know what it knew for the purpose of the dream playing out.

  This may be an analogy for the sense in which God chose not to know what humans would do in order to give them room for free action and to be fairly held accountable for their actions. If us mere humans can compartmentalise our knowledge in a dream, can’t almighty God choose not to know some aspects of the future if he so desires? Surely he can. The witness of scripture is that God offered humans a genuine choice and not a foreknown one. This is what necessitates that God chose not to know whether humans would obey or rebel.