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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  Wow that old thread of his early attempts to extract money is amazing. He is so manipulative. At the time you could be forgiven for thinking he was misguided but not dishonest in his “efforts”. But it really is telling that from the very start he believed he should not use any of his own money and that others should be giving him money. He also showed that he believes rules don’t apply to him. The warning signs were all there.

  He clearly has no intention of giving up the free income he gets from his 400 subscribers. He is just trying to work out how little output he can get away with producing while keeping them on board and sending him money.

  He has won in the past through relentlessly restating his view and pushing his agenda until others simply give up in exhaustion. That’s clearly been his strategy again over the past year. Will it work this time?
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  original reddit post (removed).

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  Sorry LMSA , maybe I misremembered different wording.

  Did anyone watch his video on the latest Watchtower statistics. I made an exception and watched it because I’m interested in the topic. (Made sure to send a dislike for the algorithm though) It was superficial and he sounded bored. I think he can’t be bothered making JW videos any more. But he likes the free money, so what can he do? He’s kind of stuck.

  He has basically signalled his intention to his fans that he intends to do less work for more money, and so far some suckers have apparently taken him up on the offer, because his Patreon numbers are up by about 40. But will it last? Or will it be a temporary bounce before his Patreon numbers begin to slide again?

  If he keeps churning out (as he puts it) boring content like the statistics video then I can’t see people paying money for that. Other channels get a lot more views but probably don’t get half the money he does. He’s clearly got a skill for getting people to send him money for very little effort. He’s got begging down to a fine art.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

  1. watchtower
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  original reddit post (removed).

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  slimboyfat

  His Patreon now says:

  Even if you can only pledge a dollar or two per month, this all goes toward keeping me involved in the important work of churning out content.

  It used to say that it “all goes toward the channel”, or something very similar, not “keeping me involved”. He’s changed the words slightly, but completely changed the meaning. I guess in his mind “keeping me involved” is a sanitised way of justifying spending Patreon money on prostitutes. Has anyone got a screen grab of the old wording?

  By his own admission, he thought he could use the money however he wanted, ‘like a doctor’, or whatever his weird justification was. Why wasn’t he booted off Patreon for misusing funds? The fact he changed the wording is proof that he knows the old wording was a lie.
  
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  Jehovah's Witnesses: Zoom Cancelled Love Jehovah Go Back to In Person Meetings

  by HiddlesWife in

  1. watchtower
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  this is a new video posted by the exjw critical thinkers jt & lady cee:.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvmulzbczvm&t=1s.

  i had a hunch that wt was going to do so, but this is happening quite soon.

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  No way! I would be shocked if they do that. About 1/3 of JWs are still on Zoom. They’d lose a lot of people if they dropped it. Even before the pandemic, there were a few who joined by telephone. I don’t think they would drop Zoom now.
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  Are there any new ideas coming from the Watchtower Society?

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
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  my brother ( who is an elder ) tries very hard to get me back to the meetings.

  he calls me every time he and his son ( he's also an elder) give a public talk.

  they send me the zoom i.d.

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  slimboyfat

  Perhaps the best comparison is what previous study books said:

  He is also God’s “only-begotten” Son, in that he is the only one directly created by Jehovah God; all other things came into existence through him as God’s Chief Agent. (Truth, 1968)

  This means that he was created before all the other spirit sons of God, and that he is the only one who was directly created by God. The Bible explains that this “firstborn” Son shared with Jehovah in creating all other things. Thus when God said, “Let us make man in our image,” he was talking to this Son. (Live Forever, 1982)

  Jesus was called God’s “only-begotten Son” because Jehovah created him directly. As “the firstborn of all creation,” Jesus was then used by God to create all other things. (Knowledge, 1995)
  

  He is the “only-begotten Son.” This means that Jesus is the only one directly created by God. Jesus is also the only one whom God used when He created all other things. (Bible Teach, 2005)

  Jesus is also precious to Jehovah because he is the only one Jehovah created directly. That is why he is called the “only-begotten Son.” Jesus is also the only one Jehovah used to create all other things. (Teach Us, 2015)

  The Bible refers to Jesus as God’s “only-begotten Son” because Jesus alone was directly created by Jehovah. Jesus worked closely with his Father, Jehovah, helping Him to create all other things. (Enjoy Life Forever, 2022)
  
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  Are there any new ideas coming from the Watchtower Society?

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my brother ( who is an elder ) tries very hard to get me back to the meetings.

  he calls me every time he and his son ( he's also an elder) give a public talk.

  they send me the zoom i.d.

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  The new study book has a different slant on Jesus’ role in creation.

  Compare the comment in the Enjoy Life Forever! book (2022):

  Jesus is a powerful spirit who lives in heaven. He was created by Jehovah God before everything else. For that reason, he is called “the firstborn of all creation.” The Bible refers to Jesus as God’s “only-begotten Son” because Jesus alone was directly created by Jehovah. Jesus worked closely with his Father, Jehovah, helping Him to create all other things. Jesus continues to enjoy a close relationship with Jehovah. He loyally serves as God’s spokesman, “the Word,” delivering His messages and instructions.​

  With the Insight book (1988):

  Not a co-Creator. The Son’s share in the creative works, however, did not make him a co-Creator with his Father. The power for creation came from God through his holy spirit, or active force. And since Jehovah is the Source of all life, all animate creation, visible and invisible, owes its life to him. Rather than a co-Creator, then, the Son was the agent or instrumentality through whom Jehovah, the Creator, worked. Jesus himself credited God with the creation, as do all the Scriptures.​

  Is that a change or am I reading too much into it?
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  Very early Watch Tower Material

  by vienne in

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  many of my posts ask for scans of rare watchtower relevant material.

  usually that produces no result.

  this time i'm showing images of some.

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  Well I hope Atlantis gets copies at some point, because he always shares his finds for others to use in their own research. 👍
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  1936 "Riches"- How Many Versions Were There?

  by Atlantis in

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  atlantis:.

  how many versions of the book called riches were there?.

  that was a project jerome was working on, so we will give him credit for this information.. .

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  slimboyfat

  I’ve got two copies, unfortunately both just the boring phonograph editions
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  Las Malvinas tell us what the detail he’s hiding is, don’t leave us hanging …
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  slimboyfat

  but now I see it’s another attic yes you are right he has been kicked out and lives in a cheap bedsit

  That would seem to be the most parsimonious explanation despite all his bluster about it being his own plan. In order to understand what he is doing it really is necessary to completely discount what he says he is doing. Any correlation between his words and his actions is purely coincidental because he says whatever is useful to himself to say in any given moment regardless of whether it is true or false, or indeed contradicts what he has already said or what is otherwise demonstrably true.