Posts by slimboyfat

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

slimboyfat

I’ve not read this thread for a while and I am actually feeling queasy reading these updates. I knew he was not a very pleasant person but it just keeps going from bad to worse.

The way he accuses others of ‘breaking trust’ is just astonishing. I don’t know how else to describe it. This from a man who lied to his wife and family for years and used supporters’ money for illegal and unethical purposes. Yet he thinks that he is the one who has been betrayed? It’s unfathomable.

He thinks he’s in the right to accuse Silvio? Why? Because of what? She told his patrons information they were entitled to know. How on earth does this arrogant idiot think he has a right to demand silence from people he has unburdened himself with his history of lies and deception? At the same time he apparently thinks he is not accountable to anyone who in fact did have reasonable expectations not to be lied to and exploited as he has done. It’s absolutely mind boggling how he can keep these two thoughts in his head at once. Does he really believe what he is saying? Do any of his patrons, if they have been following these statements? Is it entirely cynical and knowing, or is he simply off-the-charts lunatic crazy?

He claims that a small band of supporters met up with him in London. How he managed to screen out sane people from meeting him and telling him what they really think of him I can’t imagine. Plus he apparently used the address of a former supporter as a nominal base for cheating on his wife. Who does that? He claims he was ‘exploring possibilities as a single man’, I think was the obscene euphemism he used. The living hell of his wife and family in all this is awful. The messages are just the tip of the iceberg. Shame on anyone still sending this person money. You are complicit.

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Will the ministry ever resume?

by optimisticskeptic in

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going on 2+ years of no public ministry.

can't imagine anyone is really enjoying letter writing still or that it's remotely effective.

i'm a little shocked that we haven't resumed yet but i guess that's what happens when the org is run by a bunch of old people (ie high risk for covid) and a bunch of other sheltered germaphobes.

slimboyfat

Told you so

https://www.jw.org/en/news/jw/

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Will the ministry ever resume?

by optimisticskeptic in

jw
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going on 2+ years of no public ministry.

can't imagine anyone is really enjoying letter writing still or that it's remotely effective.

i'm a little shocked that we haven't resumed yet but i guess that's what happens when the org is run by a bunch of old people (ie high risk for covid) and a bunch of other sheltered germaphobes.

slimboyfat

It’s bound to start again imminently, now you’ve started this thread 😈

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Homeopathy and Jehovah's Witnesses.

by jojorabbit in

years ago, the jws did not like modern medicine.

vaccines and other things were all deemed bad.

this gave rise to a lot of jws getting into alternative medicines.

slimboyfat

Famous Swiss homeopath Alfred Vogel, said to have been a JW, was very popular among JWs from German speaking countries

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Vogel

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

slimboyfat

I don’t think he is centrist, just a lazy liberal who parrots whatever is the current line in the mainstream media, and the mainstream media pretty much give Ukrainian fascists a free pass at the moment.

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Prediction of how Watchtower going to be in 5 Years.

by Foolednomore in

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i can see it that watchtower will become an online/tv based group with just con-vention hall$.. field service would be letter writing and phone preaching, door to door is done.. watchtower will have pay to view programs and still ask for donations after all that.. zoom meetings are here to stay.

kingdumb halls will be sold off except for con-vention venues, or need for new ones$.. df'ing will continue.

the craziness will continue.

slimboyfat

No idea, either.

I think it depends a lot on world events, which are themselves unpredictable, but probably volatile. If so, everyone, including JWs, may get more apocalyptic in outlook

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

slimboyfat

Angry atheists ‘bringing down religion’ is so 2010.

Maybe he could start a prepping channel.

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Rutherford's Coup

by RolRod in

a new book on the events of the 1917 schism titled rutherford's coup is officially out on amazon.. authored by rud persson.

description.

raised a baptist, in 1906, joseph franklin rutherford, a provincial missouri attorney with a shrewd and scheming legal mind, became a baptized “bible student.” in 1907, rutherford became the legal counselor for the group's legally chartered corporation, the watch tower bible and tract society of pennsylvania.

slimboyfat

I don’t see that it was a mistake. The name had historical credibility because of its centuries of use age by mainstream churches. If anything, I suspect that churches and Bible versions, use the name less now because Jehovah’s Witnesses adopted and championed the name. If Rutherford hadn’t chosen the name Jehovah’s Witnesses in 1931, might modern versions in the tradition of the King Janes and American Standard Version, such as the Revised Standard Version, have continued using name?I think it’s possible they would have.

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Rutherford's Coup

by RolRod in

a new book on the events of the 1917 schism titled rutherford's coup is officially out on amazon.. authored by rud persson.

description.

raised a baptist, in 1906, joseph franklin rutherford, a provincial missouri attorney with a shrewd and scheming legal mind, became a baptized “bible student.” in 1907, rutherford became the legal counselor for the group's legally chartered corporation, the watch tower bible and tract society of pennsylvania.

slimboyfat

Yes, could be. I’m sure I read somewhere that the name came to Rutherford in a dream. If I remember correctly, he made the comment to someone in 1931: “here we’ve arranged this convention for all these people, and I don’t yet know what I’m going to say to the attenders”. Then he had a dream where he got the idea for the name “Jehovah’s witnesses”, and so that’s what he announced at the convention.

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Rutherford's Coup

by RolRod in

a new book on the events of the 1917 schism titled rutherford's coup is officially out on amazon.. authored by rud persson.

description.

raised a baptist, in 1906, joseph franklin rutherford, a provincial missouri attorney with a shrewd and scheming legal mind, became a baptized “bible student.” in 1907, rutherford became the legal counselor for the group's legally chartered corporation, the watch tower bible and tract society of pennsylvania.

slimboyfat

I’ve read about half of it. Some parts interest me more than others. It has clearly titled chapters which allow you to read the parts that interest you. I found the chapter on Britain and the chapter on the Standfast movement interesting. Plus it includes a number of biographies that can be read in any order. There’s a definite attempt to rehabilitate Paul Johnson, for example, after the probably distorting criticism of him in the Watchtower over the years.

It has a number of interesting appendices too, including a testimony from an old Swedish brother on what it was like to work at the Headquarters under Rutherford. Did you know that not all workers at Bethel in the 1920s were even baptised? Some just applied for the work and were accepted because they needed workers.

You can find videos with the author discussing the book on YouTube if you search for Rud Persson and Watch Tower History.