Yeah the politics of JW "lands" is an interesting study in itself. Categorising Northern Ireland as Ireland, and putting Taiwan under the Japan column it looks like in the photo above. Palestine listed sometimes too, separating Alaska, Hawaii and Puerto Rico, then adding them to US, but not Puerto Rico. Falklands as a separate land. In trying to be "neutral" they sometimes make the most surprising political choices. I think it demonstrates there can be no such thing as complete neutrality in what constitutes a "land" and what name to give it. I wonder when they switched from using colonial names for African countries, exactly when they changed, or when they became independent, if that's when they changed, or sooner or later. I wonder when they stopped listing Tibet or if they ever listed East Timor, Gaza Strip or West Bank. Do they list Cyprus as one land? I think they do. Maybe it's a special policy for islands they think should be united. Or maybe it's an slight anti-British bias in the case of both Ireland and Cyprus. Falklands I don't know. It would be interesting to know how it's listed in the Spanish yearbook.
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Every Country and Land... Except Oman
by ILoveTTATT2 inso the other day someone asked me what use was it to make the list of countries in which there have been reports.... well... to know that, as far as i can tell, there has never been preaching done in oman.. it has never appeared in any report, and the reports go back to 1926!.
all other countries and lands have appeared, but not oman.. so there... first useful fact about the watchtower that we can get from 90 years of data..
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Is this a normal JW practice? Warning, this will be a bit graphic.
by Sequoia inthis post may be disturbing and i apologize, but i'm just trying to find out if this is a practice the jw teaches.
i was taken advantage of by a guy claiming to be a jw preacher.
he took me to his house supposedly so i could give his daughter piano lessons, and then he basically forced himself on me while telling me he was in love with me and wanted to marry me.
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The problem with JWs is they can be so concerned about sex being a "sin" they forget the more important issues of respect and consent. He probably still thinks about the event in terms of sin rather than criminality. Hopefully the police and authorities will clear up the difference in his mind when they catch up with him. -
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Every Country and Land... Except Oman
by ILoveTTATT2 inso the other day someone asked me what use was it to make the list of countries in which there have been reports.... well... to know that, as far as i can tell, there has never been preaching done in oman.. it has never appeared in any report, and the reports go back to 1926!.
all other countries and lands have appeared, but not oman.. so there... first useful fact about the watchtower that we can get from 90 years of data..
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Sorry if my question "what are you going to do with the data" sounded like "what use is it?" I didn't mean that at all. I think it's a great idea. In fact I did something similar myself years ago, but by hand, with 70+ physical yearbooks and an excel spreadsheet. For me one of the most interesting things I found was the dramatic differences from country to country surrounding 1975. For some countries such as the Phillipines the impact was dramatic and for other countries such as Italy there was no impact whatever.
Sounds like a good idea. I wish I knew how to do it.
Alaska and Hawaii in or out US, South Sudan, Rhodesia, Zambia, mixing changing names all over the place. Complicated stuff. Good luck.
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John Lewis: Trump isn't a legitimate president
by Brokeback Watchtower inhttp://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/john-lewis-trump-isnt-a-legitimate-president/ar-aalqsqs?li=bbmkt5r&ocid=spartanntp.
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slimboyfat
How can we spend time arguing about these details when we are facing the Trumpocalypse!
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Oi Cofty
by Landy innew series of timc started monday.. one of the episodes is on evolution - should be good knowing cox's antipathy towards religion.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b088f2vv.
sorry you colonials - it's on the bbc so you won't be able to get it.
serves yourself right for voting for trump!
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slimboyfat
What makes you say Scotland would have been worse off independent? In the 1970s the UK government commissioned a report that concluded Scotland would be a very wealthy independent country. The report was kept secret. In the meantime Norway did become a very wealthy country, while UK revenue from the North Sea was used to fund 1980s privatisation and tax cuts, and none put aside for the future. The UK also spent a fortune on wars and weapons of mass destruction. How has any of that improved Scotland's position? Scotland has been a net contributor to the UK for most of the last 40 years. Only in the last couple of years has this reversed slightly. The Independent - hardly an snp paper.
Given that history how on earth can you say Scotland has been better off in the UK?
The table at the bottom of this page shows that Scotland raised slightly less revenue per person than the rest of the UK for the last two years, compared with years when revenue from Scotland was much higher than the rest of the UK.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-37167975
There is no doubt that the last two years have been tough for Scotland because of the low price of oil. But that's within the context of years and decades of net contribution to the UK. And if Scotland was independent it could have put money aside as Norway did. If Scotland is independent in the future it can make better decisions about its economy than the UK has made.
It's as if unionists think staying in the UK actually constitutes an economic plan. Scotland needs to adapt whether it is independent or not. The Barnett formula won't last forever whether we are independent or not. Or is it really the plan to rely on subsidy from now on indefinitely? Good luck with that economic plan.
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by Landy innew series of timc started monday.. one of the episodes is on evolution - should be good knowing cox's antipathy towards religion.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b088f2vv.
sorry you colonials - it's on the bbc so you won't be able to get it.
serves yourself right for voting for trump!
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slimboyfat
A few observations about that:
1. If the UK is such a great thing for Scotland how come we've ended up in that position?
2. And if being in the UK got us into that situation, how is remaining part of the UK ever going to improve things?
3. What is the unionist plan to fix the situation? Beg money from the rest of the UK forever? Do you think the rest of the UK would stand for that? Would it even be desirable from a Scottish standpoint?
Apart from all of which you seem to have swallowed unionist propaganda about Scotland having a huge deficit. The truth is most countries have deficits (not Norway because they controlled their own oil revenue). And for most of the last 40 years Scotland has had a smaller deficit than the rest of the UK and been a net contributor to the UK. In fact 2012/13 was the first year in decades when Scotland's deficit was larger than the UK and it was only slightly larger. Even the BBC report this truthfully on occasion. See the graph half way down this page.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-28879267
Whether Scotland prospers in the future depends on whether we can make the right choices about our future here in Scotland. Relying on handouts is not a good plan, sells ourselves short and doesn't show respect for rest of the UK.
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by Landy innew series of timc started monday.. one of the episodes is on evolution - should be good knowing cox's antipathy towards religion.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b088f2vv.
sorry you colonials - it's on the bbc so you won't be able to get it.
serves yourself right for voting for trump!
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slimboyfat
You say we are so poor we cannot afford to be independent, but that we are doing "tremendously well" under Tories. Which is it?
As I understand it the facts are the Scotland has contributed far more to the UK treasury as a percentage than it has got back for most of the last 40 years, largely because of oil revenue. It is true this has reversed slightly in the last couple of years because of lower oil revenue. That's the current position. Scotland needs to adapt to a post-oil economy whether we are independent or not. We need to develop our strengths and the best way to do that is to make the right choices for our own economy. Not allow others to make mistakes on our behalf.
If the unionists' plan is simply for Scotland to rely on money from the rest of the UK I don't think that's a plan the rest of the UK will welcome. And neither would it be good for Scotland. We have a lot going for us including untapped oil and gas, renewable energy, tourism, fishing, niche food and drink exports, world class universities, creative industries and so on. Norway is rich because it used its oil wealth wisely. Unfortunately our North Sea oil revenue was not wisely used. But it's not the only way to create a successful small country. Look at Denmark without oil.
Again the issue comes down to this. Those who say an independent Scotland would be a disaster need to explain what they think is so uniquely inadequate about Scotland or Scottish people that they can't be trusted to govern themselves.
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Scriptures rarely mentioned
by dothemath ina couple of examples of scriptures hardly ever quoted is 1 tim.
2:12- "i do not permit a woman to teach, or to exercise authority over a man, but to be in silence".
or verse 11- "let a woman learn in silence with full submissiveness.".
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1 Cor 1:2
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by Landy innew series of timc started monday.. one of the episodes is on evolution - should be good knowing cox's antipathy towards religion.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b088f2vv.
sorry you colonials - it's on the bbc so you won't be able to get it.
serves yourself right for voting for trump!
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slimboyfat
Plus to point out what should be obvious in Scotland, the SNP are not the only party or group for indepdence. There are the Greens, Scottish Socialists, Rise and other left groups, as well as Labour for Indepdence, and even a few Tory supporters.
In fact when it comes to another referendum the SNP don't have enough votes in parliament to make it happen. It will only pass if the Greens support it as well. Which no doubt they will.
I find it amusing how the BBC and other media have somehow convinced people elsewhere in the UK that Sturgeon is somehow afraid of independence or she doesn't really mean it. That's the power of propaganda I suppose. They have succeeded in making some people believe that Scotland governing itself is such a ridiculous idea that even those who are in favour of it don't really mean what they say. Amazing.
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by Landy innew series of timc started monday.. one of the episodes is on evolution - should be good knowing cox's antipathy towards religion.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b088f2vv.
sorry you colonials - it's on the bbc so you won't be able to get it.
serves yourself right for voting for trump!
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slimboyfat
Well I support SNP as a means to an end. When Scotland is independent it will vote for its own government. Presumably initially some kind of centre-left coalition, in line with majority politiical opinion in Scotland. I don't think SNP will last long in independent Scotland. Not everyone's view, but parties would realign to new situation.
It is the UK government that spent oil revenue without saving any. It is the UK government that took us into illegal and expensive wars, costing many lives as well as billions of pounds. It is the UK government that presided over a bank system at the centre of the global crash. It is the UK government that is dismantling the welfare system and bunggled its way out of the EU.
It would challenging for any new Scotland to equal that level of failure. Scotland's current financial poisition is a result of being part of the UK and subject to these and other failed policies. What would Scotland look like if we had 1) set up an oil fund like Norway 2) avoided illegal wars and paying for weapons of mass destruction 3) control over our own regulation and spending priorities? We can't change the mistakes of the past, but we can learn from them. If you are correct that Scotland's financial position is parlous, then it seems beyond weird to use this as an argument for staying in the current arrangement that got into that position in the first place. If we want to improve the situation the answer is to grow up and take responsibility for governing ourselves.