Has anyone ever worked out how many millions of trees it took to produce all the WT literature over the past 140 years?
slimboyfat
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How would the world be different if there were no JWs?
by JW_Rogue ini think this would be a great question to ask active jws.
they love to say how the world would be so different if everyone was a jw.
however, what if we flip the question and ask, would the world really be much different if the jw faith never came into existence?
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Got the personal invite to the D.C
by Phizzy ina nice jw old boy knocked the door and asked me how i was, said they were giving out invites, i refrained from mocking him for the total waste of time such "work" is.. he mentioned that " we don't know when the end will come" , so i just said i was sure my new grandson would grow up, go to university, get a good job and his kids would do the same, by which time i shall be long gone.. "you are sure of that ?
" asked the jw, "oh yes", i replied.. i know we cannot be sure of anything, except death and taxes, but there is loads of evidence that my scenario may well play out, there is no single shred of evidence for an "end to the system" as envisaged by jw's, their weird view coming from a totally discredited source, the bible and mainly its final book, what nonsense..
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slimboyfat
The real deterrent for an all-out nuclear war is that there are no winners. Nobody will come out on the other end with more land, or more money, or more oil, or more prestige. it's all gone.
In what way is this a deterrent to a suicidal religious fanatic in control of weapons, or one who works out how to hack the nuclear arsenal of a nuclear power? Or to a secular dictator whose back is against the wall with nothing personally left to lose?
Most rational people in almost all situations would of course never use nuclear weapons. Unfortunatley this does not cover all people or all situations. It's a waiting game.
If you think nuclear war is highly unlikely, surely the historical examples when we came very close should cause some pause for thought. Like the Russian nuclear submarine under fire during the Cuban missile crisis, when two out of the three Russian generals wanted to respond with nuclear weapons. Or the various false alarms that were only recognised at various late stages. Or the war between India and Pakistan that could easily have escalated.
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Got the personal invite to the D.C
by Phizzy ina nice jw old boy knocked the door and asked me how i was, said they were giving out invites, i refrained from mocking him for the total waste of time such "work" is.. he mentioned that " we don't know when the end will come" , so i just said i was sure my new grandson would grow up, go to university, get a good job and his kids would do the same, by which time i shall be long gone.. "you are sure of that ?
" asked the jw, "oh yes", i replied.. i know we cannot be sure of anything, except death and taxes, but there is loads of evidence that my scenario may well play out, there is no single shred of evidence for an "end to the system" as envisaged by jw's, their weird view coming from a totally discredited source, the bible and mainly its final book, what nonsense..
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slimboyfat
Steve, the "21st century" comment may be similar in form to the infamous WT statement about the 20th century that was later revised, but utterly different in content and probability, I would suggest.
All generations view their own time as unique and are aware of new risks. But the invention of the nuclear bomb was a game changer. Humans now have the ability to end our planetary civilisation in minutes. We have come incredibly close to doing so a number of times. It would be foolish to think we will not come close again, or that we will avert the worst every time. It's just one of those things better not to think too much about I suppose, but nevertheless very real.
Astronomer Martin Rees gave various scenarios and reasons for suspecting humans would not last another century, but by far the most worrysome to me is nuclear conflagration.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Our-Final-Century-Civilisation-Twenty-first/dp/0099436868
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Got the personal invite to the D.C
by Phizzy ina nice jw old boy knocked the door and asked me how i was, said they were giving out invites, i refrained from mocking him for the total waste of time such "work" is.. he mentioned that " we don't know when the end will come" , so i just said i was sure my new grandson would grow up, go to university, get a good job and his kids would do the same, by which time i shall be long gone.. "you are sure of that ?
" asked the jw, "oh yes", i replied.. i know we cannot be sure of anything, except death and taxes, but there is loads of evidence that my scenario may well play out, there is no single shred of evidence for an "end to the system" as envisaged by jw's, their weird view coming from a totally discredited source, the bible and mainly its final book, what nonsense..
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slimboyfat
I agree JW Armageddon is not coming anytime. But if Trump becomes president I wouldn't be so sure of the rest.
In fact even if he doesn't become president I doubt the prospects of humans surviving the 21st century.
Is that unusual?
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Listen to Terri O'Sullivan XJW on Croydon Radio !
by Phizzy interri o'sullivan was interviewed by croydon radio for a programme called "leap of faith", it was broadcast on sunday.. she does a great job of showing how wacky and weird the jw beliefs and practices are, the interviewer asks perceptive questions, either he was well briefed by terri or he is an ex jw !.
she also gives info.
on her meetup group for xjw's, great fun !.
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slimboyfat
I'll be gone in a huff or I'll be gone in a minute in a huff.
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Listen to Terri O'Sullivan XJW on Croydon Radio !
by Phizzy interri o'sullivan was interviewed by croydon radio for a programme called "leap of faith", it was broadcast on sunday.. she does a great job of showing how wacky and weird the jw beliefs and practices are, the interviewer asks perceptive questions, either he was well briefed by terri or he is an ex jw !.
she also gives info.
on her meetup group for xjw's, great fun !.
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slimboyfat
Okay I guess there's no welcome for reasonable discussion or honest feedback here. My bad, forget I said anything.
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Listen to Terri O'Sullivan XJW on Croydon Radio !
by Phizzy interri o'sullivan was interviewed by croydon radio for a programme called "leap of faith", it was broadcast on sunday.. she does a great job of showing how wacky and weird the jw beliefs and practices are, the interviewer asks perceptive questions, either he was well briefed by terri or he is an ex jw !.
she also gives info.
on her meetup group for xjw's, great fun !.
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slimboyfat
Totally agree and understand it's reasonable not to share everything. But the point was actually emphasised that the reason for being thrown out and totally shunned was missing just two meetings and coming home late once. That makes JWs seem even more crazy than I have experienced them to be. It does seem a bit incredible to be honest. It should be possible to keep private details private without going out of the way to make JWs appear even more extreme than they are.
But I enjoyed the interview and Terri did a really good job.
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Listen to Terri O'Sullivan XJW on Croydon Radio !
by Phizzy interri o'sullivan was interviewed by croydon radio for a programme called "leap of faith", it was broadcast on sunday.. she does a great job of showing how wacky and weird the jw beliefs and practices are, the interviewer asks perceptive questions, either he was well briefed by terri or he is an ex jw !.
she also gives info.
on her meetup group for xjw's, great fun !.
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slimboyfat
She comes across really sensible and measured. Well done.
But I must admit some of the story is hard to understand. She was a pioneer for years but she was bored with meetings in her early 20s. Her JW mum threw her and her sister out of the house after she missed just two meetings and came home late once. She reported 90 hours field service the month before, but the elders told everyone to ignore her because she came home late and missed two meetings. Then she moved into the spare room of a male colleague she had never spent time with outside work before. That's a pretty sudden and extreme sequence of events.
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Russellites ----> Bible Students ----> Jehovah's Witnesses
by Wild_Thing inin my experience, the jws always seemed to shy away from much association from the term "russellites".
most are wiling to accept that bible students took on the name jehovah's witnesses, but they seem to disavow much association with the term "russellites".. is this perception true?
does anyone know if there is anything in their literature after 1931 where they admit they are the same group as the russellites?
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slimboyfat
I don't think they ever accepted the term, in any period. Russellsm is similar pejorative, used by outsiders only.
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anyone else had this following convention
by freeandcontent inso my mam visited today.
she recently went to convention in north east england, newcastle i think they still have them at.
before she left she said (this is her exact words btw) "you have put me in a difficult position and i can't come to see you anymore".. she told me that as i live with my partner and we are unmarried that she can't visit anymore.
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slimboyfat
BluesBrother it seems the sanction has been expanded from "anyone called a brother" to include anyone who is inactive, in other words anyone who has ever been baptised, regardless of how they are currently viewed.