Anything but discuss the actual argument.
slimboyfat
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Are we in a computer simulation?
by Brokeback Watchtower inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znmk2viuqba.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/simulation_hypothesis.
consequences of living in a simulation[edit]some scholars speculate that the creators of our hypothetical simulation may have limited computing power; if so, after a certain point, the creators would have to deploy some sort of strategy to prevent simulations from themselves indefinitely creating high-fidelity simulations in unbounded regress.
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Are we in a computer simulation?
by Brokeback Watchtower inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znmk2viuqba.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/simulation_hypothesis.
consequences of living in a simulation[edit]some scholars speculate that the creators of our hypothetical simulation may have limited computing power; if so, after a certain point, the creators would have to deploy some sort of strategy to prevent simulations from themselves indefinitely creating high-fidelity simulations in unbounded regress.
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slimboyfat
I have no idea. I listened to the argument on its own. It made good points. It didn't make me believe in Jesus, who may not have existed, for what it is worth,
Was looking forward to actual critique of argument. Should have known better.
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Are we in a computer simulation?
by Brokeback Watchtower inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znmk2viuqba.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/simulation_hypothesis.
consequences of living in a simulation[edit]some scholars speculate that the creators of our hypothetical simulation may have limited computing power; if so, after a certain point, the creators would have to deploy some sort of strategy to prevent simulations from themselves indefinitely creating high-fidelity simulations in unbounded regress.
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slimboyfat
The videos didn't mention Jesus. They argued that reality is dependent on observation and consciousness rather than matter in itself. Is there a real atheist response to this? -
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Are we in a computer simulation?
by Brokeback Watchtower inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znmk2viuqba.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/simulation_hypothesis.
consequences of living in a simulation[edit]some scholars speculate that the creators of our hypothetical simulation may have limited computing power; if so, after a certain point, the creators would have to deploy some sort of strategy to prevent simulations from themselves indefinitely creating high-fidelity simulations in unbounded regress.
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slimboyfat
Materialism is a faith based opinion.
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Are we in a computer simulation?
by Brokeback Watchtower inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znmk2viuqba.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/simulation_hypothesis.
consequences of living in a simulation[edit]some scholars speculate that the creators of our hypothetical simulation may have limited computing power; if so, after a certain point, the creators would have to deploy some sort of strategy to prevent simulations from themselves indefinitely creating high-fidelity simulations in unbounded regress.
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slimboyfat
Really? I thought it was pretty clear.
Um, care to elaborate?
Experiments increasinly confirm that reality does not exist independently of observation.
http://www.nature.com/news/2007/070416/full/news070416-9.html
Reality seems to exist in pixilated form. It consists of thoughts rather than bits of matter.
Additionally computer simulations become more realistic over time. Logically at some point simulations will become indistinguishable from reality.
Which raises the question are we already in a simulation?
Given that when civilisations reach a level of development they will tend to produce simulations as we do, it follows that simulations probably outnumber real worlds many times over. So it follows that our reality is more likely a simulation.
But then we hit the problem of infinite regress as simulated worlds in turn create simulated worlds.
A simpler and more elegant explanation is that the world is not material at its base but is a projection from a superior being or God.
Atheists often complain that God has not revealed himself. Maybe he is doing just that, just now, in these very cutting edge discoveries in physics that point to a non-material base of reality.
Interested to know when you think the argument falls down.
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What a fader can say to a sleepy witness?
by Darkknight757 ini have a question.
yesterday while the wife and i were hitting garage sales we seen a house selling tools.
this house happened to be a witness couple getting rid of some old stuff.
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slimboyfat
You could ask if they think Jesus might have been married.
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5762343623458816/how-wind-up-jw
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Are we in a computer simulation?
by Brokeback Watchtower inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znmk2viuqba.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/simulation_hypothesis.
consequences of living in a simulation[edit]some scholars speculate that the creators of our hypothetical simulation may have limited computing power; if so, after a certain point, the creators would have to deploy some sort of strategy to prevent simulations from themselves indefinitely creating high-fidelity simulations in unbounded regress.
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slimboyfat
How the simulation argument proves God.
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How baptism rate at conventions relates to yearbook growth rate (Discussion)
by bohm inwe had a number of posters report on the baptism rate at conventions which is usually less than 1% and rates lower than 0.5% is by no means uncommon.
despite this there is still a positive growth rate in the us (0.71% according to the yearbook) and i wonder how these numbers relate.
i wonder if anyone can help me out if these assumptions are true:.
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slimboyfat
When I attended regularly (1996 to 2002) the number baptised was around 15 to 40 at district conventions and 0 to 15 at circuit assemblies.
I doubt there is any way you can collect enough anecdotal information to provide any meaningful comparison with official figures. As others have pointed out, "total number of baptised JWs" is not a statistic that has ever been published anyway.
What are you trying to work out?
Are JW statistics generally reliable? Yes
Have they made some mistakes and is there some evidence of falsification? Yes
Nevertheless the official statistics are generally reliable.
In any case I would argue that the single most important statistic for giving a picture of growth, vibrancy, or decline over the long term is the number of congregations. And the great advantage of this statistic is that it's very hard or impossible for JWs to falsify since congregation meetings are individually listed publicly.
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Moral indignation against "faders" shows JW apologists are morally bankrupt
by slimboyfat ini came across this weird blog that castigates fading jws for their "cowardice" and "hypocrisy" for not making themselves vulnerable to shunning.
apparently in the view of this blogger jws who discover it's not the truth are morally obliged to play by the watchtower rules and face the consequences of shunning.. http://jwresearchblog.blogspot.co.uk/2015/06/fading-faking-and-lying-as-unbelieving.html#comment-form.
what is absent from the blog post is any discussion of the statement in the july 2009 awake!, that no one should be made to choose between their beliefs and their family.
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slimboyfat
I came across this weird blog that castigates fading JWs for their "cowardice" and "hypocrisy" for not making themselves vulnerable to shunning. Apparently in the view of this blogger JWs who discover it's not the truth are morally obliged to play by the Watchtower rules and face the consequences of shunning.
What is absent from the blog post is any discussion of the statement in the July 2009 Awake!, that no one should be made to choose between their beliefs and their family. If JWs actually stuck by that statement there would be no such thing as faders and no moral dilemma to grapple with. The problematic situation is entirely of their own making, and the failure of JWs to stick by their own pronouncements against making people choose between beliefs and family. The moral deficiency is with the Watchtower and those who help implement its hypocritical stance toward those who realise the religion is faulty, not with those who are trying to extricate themselves in the least damaging way.
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Are we in a computer simulation?
by Brokeback Watchtower inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znmk2viuqba.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/simulation_hypothesis.
consequences of living in a simulation[edit]some scholars speculate that the creators of our hypothetical simulation may have limited computing power; if so, after a certain point, the creators would have to deploy some sort of strategy to prevent simulations from themselves indefinitely creating high-fidelity simulations in unbounded regress.
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slimboyfat
Sounds like a good argument for God to me.
Heidegger was right that existence and consciousness are linked in a deeply mysterious way.