Growth from fairly reliable countries in the past, like Brazil, Mexico, and Nigeria, has slowed considerably, and in Japan, Korea and Russia it's gone into reverse.
slimboyfat
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How long can this cult remain with only kids becoming members?
by Crazyguy init's become clear that very few from outside the religion are joining anymore.
if only the kids of the people that are already in are the one replacing the members as they die off and 50% let's say of the kids leave then how long can they realistically last before the downturn becomes obvious?.
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Qatar convicts Dutch tourist who says she was raped
by Splash ingoogle the above title and find the worldwide media outlets that allow comments.comments need to be made on these articles to say that jw's taught the same thing.choose your quote from any of the below:.
wt 64, jan 15 p. 64 teaches if a woman doesn't scream she is guilty of fornication: "thus if a christian woman does not cry out and does not put forth every effort to flee, she would be viewed as consenting to the violation.".
awake!
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slimboyfat
Awake! 84, Feb 22 - Treat the rapist with respect and understanding:
"Treat Him Respectfully – The intended victim should remember that the rapist is a human. No doubt there are circumstances in his life that have precipitated his behaviour. So although a woman should not cower in fear and permit a rapist to intimidate her, at the same time she should treat him understandingly as a fellow human."You have got to be kidding. What the hell?
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Who was the poster who predicted radical Watchtower change years ago?
by slimboyfat inwho was the poster, about 8 years ago, who came on the forum and claimed he had inside information that the gb were planning radical changes.
he said that in ten years time jws would be unrecognisable.
many were skeptical.
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slimboyfat
That's the one I was thinking of!
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Criticism of Jehovah's Witnesses Wikipedia
by Brokeback Watchtower inhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/criticism_of_jehovah%27s_witnesses.
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slimboyfat
Well that's generous of them.
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Who was the poster who predicted radical Watchtower change years ago?
by slimboyfat inwho was the poster, about 8 years ago, who came on the forum and claimed he had inside information that the gb were planning radical changes.
he said that in ten years time jws would be unrecognisable.
many were skeptical.
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slimboyfat
If they are going to use 2034 then now might be about the right time for them to start hinting at it.
You know, in a funny way, I reckon the GB probably would have latched onto 2034 as a date. The logic is pretty simple and it's convenient in many ways. But the one thing that will probably stop them is the fact that apostates on the Internet have already flagged up the possibility of them using the date.
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Criticism of Jehovah's Witnesses Wikipedia
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slimboyfat
Historically that's true. However, the Watchtower stance rapidly becoming pretty isolated. A decade ago Church of Scotland stigmatised gay people. Last month they voted to allow gay ministers to get married. Watch the Anglicans, Methodists, Baptists, you name it, fall in line.
As churches become more and more accepting of gay people JWs may be among the last ones standing. At that point it will become a huge issue.
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Who was the poster who predicted radical Watchtower change years ago?
by slimboyfat inwho was the poster, about 8 years ago, who came on the forum and claimed he had inside information that the gb were planning radical changes.
he said that in ten years time jws would be unrecognisable.
many were skeptical.
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slimboyfat
Yeah I predicted the end of Circuit Overseers a decade ago. Sure I'm going to take credit for it when it finally happens.
Actually in the case of my prediction I reckon they probably were going to abolish COs, but someone at bethel read my thread, passed it on to the GB, and they reversed the decision at the last minute as part of an evil ploy to make me appear less prescient than I am.
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Criticism of Jehovah's Witnesses Wikipedia
by Brokeback Watchtower inhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/criticism_of_jehovah%27s_witnesses.
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slimboyfat
What I find interesting about that list is how secular the criticisms are. Online opposition to JWs sure has changed. When I first arrived on the Internet the most discussed topics about JWs tended to be: is Jesus your mediator, Trinity, John 1:1, Jehovah in the NT, Greber Bible, faith or works and so on. Sure blood and shunning were discussed too, but mediator and Trinty topics were more prominent. Now these theological disputes are relegated almost to an afterthought. I think it's indicative of change both in JWs and society in general. We are more secular as a whole and JWs concentrate a lot less on doctrine themselves these days.
A glaring omission from the list is Watchtower treatment of gay people. No doubt this will be added to the list as the issue gains salience.
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Who was the poster who predicted radical Watchtower change years ago?
by slimboyfat inwho was the poster, about 8 years ago, who came on the forum and claimed he had inside information that the gb were planning radical changes.
he said that in ten years time jws would be unrecognisable.
many were skeptical.
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slimboyfat
That rings a bell, but I thought it was much longer ago. Strange. Maybe there was another similar one. Was it the brother who also said he was involved in developing the new song book?
Look forward to hearing from you careful!
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How long can this cult remain with only kids becoming members?
by Crazyguy init's become clear that very few from outside the religion are joining anymore.
if only the kids of the people that are already in are the one replacing the members as they die off and 50% let's say of the kids leave then how long can they realistically last before the downturn becomes obvious?.
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slimboyfat
I think we may see actual decline within the next couple of years. Last year's worldwide growth was only 1.5% which must be one of the lowest growth figures ever.
A key indicator may be the age profile of JWs. I've only been to two meetings in the last three years but it struck me how old everyone is now at the Kingdom Hall. It's the same people just getting older. There is no new generation, or very few, coming up to replace them.
The results from the Pew Research Centre show JWs getting older between 2007 and 2014. It's a well studied phenomenon that an increasingly older age profile of religious groups and decline in numbers go hand in hand. And the increase in average age often precedes the decline phase and then proceeds in tandem with it. On this basis I think that JWs will soon begin to decline and that their average age will continue to increase at the same time.
What I think will be really interesting to watch is how JWs manage decline. How will they cope with it psychologically, considering they've long claimed that growth in members was the reason Jehovah is delaying Armageddon. How will they cope organisationally with closing congregations and consolidating. In fact they are already doing that. But the process of losing congregations may speed the decline further.