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Posts by blondie
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11So how do I get to "attend" a zoom meeting
by greenhornet indo you have to be invited?
is there any way of listening in on the kh meeting?
it's been about 30 years since i have been to a kh and they would have a conference call of 4 people on the phone together because they were sick.
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Juneteenth being celebrated by JWs
by Anony Mous inso today i saw a group of jws i know, we were sitting down to eat at a public place and i guess they (mom and daughter) were performing at an event with their sports team… for juneteenth.. they (the entire team) happened to sit next to us for some fast food and i recognized them and said hi, hoping to make them uncomfortable.
they actually said hi and introduced themselves to my family, i’ve seen them before (they go to the same school as one of my kids) and they usually ignore me.
i know for a fact they and their family still goes, the family patriarch is an elder etc.
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blondie
What is a demo?
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Reddit thread Warning young JWs that ‘Spiritual Goals’ are Not a Career!
by LongHairGal inas somebody who worked full-time when i was in the witness religion, this topic naturally caught my eye.. many of the responses are heartfelt.
there are about 90 at this point.
from what i read so far.. many are people who woke up before they got old but even these are resentful over their life being derailed with wasted time pursuing spiritual goals and having to start over at a later age getting an education/job.. i imagine born-in young jws would be most susceptible to this.. in today’s world, a ‘career’ is something that earns you a living.. as many of the responses there will say: anybody who pursues ‘spiritual goals’ only will end up with wasted time in the end with no money and no retirement plan… i couldn’t agree more.. it would be a shame if this happens to yet more jws..
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blondie
LHG, I found that this idea about not having a career was applied carefully...saw too many who did not follow this, and were given room to do this (excuses) by the elders. Those who were trying to live up to the written stuff or stuff pushed by other jws (mostly not following the same "advice"") were burned by trying to please humans, and not seeing it was not the same as pleasing their god. I got a good education in high school, learned skills that transferred to several areas of work, and kept getting training through my workplaces. In the WTS language, a career is a job that makes money enough to live on ,not to live in poverty. I found the ones that made these "suggestions" were well set financially, or women whose husbands had very, very good jobs and they could just prance around. When they encouraged me, I would always ask, why aren't you pioneering...they would say I have children, I would point out pioneers that had children and managed to do so...perhaps they could give them some tips. People like that stopped "encouraging" me.
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Am I a Return Visit?
by NotFormer inwell, i'm still processing this one.
saturday morning just gone.
my wife says: "there's a man in a suit at the door!
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blondie
Not Former, amazing experience. Yes, they do keep lists of "aggressive" people. "Anyway, he said he'd be back in two weeks, so I suppose that I'm officially a "return visit"? I did warn him about my mild form of bipolar disorder and that I couldn't guarantee that I'd be the same friendly chap next time. That's when it emerged that one of the ladies from a previous visit had apparently said something about me being aggressive and argumentative. So it seems that they do keep some sort of record about what the households are like, if only a mental note. I'm wondering if the kindly old auxiliary pioneer drew the short straw and got to knock on my door."
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How does the Watchtower Society find Deaf People in the community?
by blondie ini saw this article online today from a woman concerned about conversion tactics used by religious groups, specifically jehovah's witnesses, to find deaf people to convert.
it made me go back and see what the wts uses.. https ://limpingchicken.com/2025/06/12/rebecca-a-withey-concerns-about-deaf-people-being-targeted-by-religious-groups/.
deaf in wts.
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blondie
I saw this article online today from a woman concerned about conversion tactics used by religious groups, specifically Jehovah's witnesses, to find deaf people to convert. It made me go back and see what the WTS uses.
Deaf in WTS
Kingdom Ministry July 2012 p. 4-7 (this is just part of the “suggestions” how to find “deaf” people)
“Sign-language congregations and groups have had success making inquiries in residential areas. Perhaps the householder has observed a neighbor, workmate, or schoolmate using sign language. He may have noticed a street sign alerting neighbors that deaf children are present. Maybe he has a deaf relative. Keep in mind that the purpose of your visit may be viewed with some suspicion. However, you can do much to put the householder at ease by your genuine friendliness and your brief, honest, and dignified explanation. Some have had good results by displaying the Bible or other DVDs as they inquire whether the householder knows someone who is deaf. Then they simply mention that they wish to share the Bible’s hope with such ones. If the householder hesitates to provide information, he may be willing to accept your address card or a congregation meeting invitation to give to his deaf relative or friend…
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Predictions for the next decade?
by jehovaxx inas it’s nearly the new year my prediction over the next decade or so will see the sense of urgency dwindle.
then some huge huge changes.
for example by 2034 in a decades time, they will have address the 1914 issue and will come out and say we can’t be dogmatic.
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blondie
DOC, already happening: 3 at Janesville WI Assembly Hall.
Conventions will be smaller to make use of Assembly Halls (already happening) so as to avoid paying rent to outside facilities.
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Baptismal Failure Rates Among JW Bible Teachers
by Sea Breeze inthe 2024 data from the jw website indicates that jw teachers have an over 96% failure rate with their students : .
2024 average bible studies each month: 7,480,146.
2024 baptisms:296,267. number of bible studies it takes to produce one baptism : 25.25. this means that jehovah's witnesses have an over 96% failure rate with people who want to study the bible with them.
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Admonishment to the Governing Body of the Watch Tower Society By - YHWH
by EisMe inadmonishment to the governing body of the watch tower society.
to the governing body of jehovah’s witnesses: you have presented yourselves as god’s appointed messengers, yet nowhere in scripture does god declare your authority as his chosen representatives.
by falsely claiming divine appointment, you have led many into spiritual bondage, deceiving them into believing you alone have the truth.. misuse of donated labor & financial deception.
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blondie
EisMe, changing your name did not improve your thinking.
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A lot of bodies
by Elena ini have this memory of a gb member once saying that there would be a lot of bodies to be buried after armageddon.. does anyone else remember who said it?.
it was probably in the last decade or so.
ive been trying to find the video i’m sure it was on lloyd evens and all the other similar channels when it was said.. i can’t remember which gb member said it.
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blondie
I decided to check this out and found this (ludicrous): WT 1956 8/1 p. 465: "With such a glorious feast of victory concluded, only the bones, bones from one end of the earth to the other, will be left for burial. What a task that will be for the survivors, to cleanse the earth of every remaining evidence of Gog’s forces! Even with the work well organized it will take seven months, Jehovah says, just to bury the bones. Scouting corps will be sent out on a full-time basis to search the land thoroughly and, when bones are found, markers will be set up for those with the spades and shovels who follow. (Ezek. 39:14, 15) Those privileged to share in that cleanup work will not view it as a revolting and disgusting assignment but will rejoice to be alive when Gog’s long and oppressive rule has come to an end and when the wicked are no more. Survivors of Armageddon will be happy and will greatly rejoice to have a share in preparing the earth for a global paradise of beauty and perfection under the reign of the King Christ Jesus. But first, before that happy day, this message against Gog must be delivered in its completeness." Could be why some older jws in the past thought this.
But in WT1973 6/1 p. 346 "But the animals could never dispose of all those slain at Har–Magedon. Hence, the Almighty God will doubtless use some highly scientific means at his disposal to get rid of the surplus of the decaying bodies in a speedy and sanitary way. We remember that Noah and his seven fellow survivors of the global deluge were not burdened with burying the human victims of that world catastrophe after they came out of the ark and renewed Jehovah’s worship on earth (note word doubtless)
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Remember Hour Quotas?
by blondie inhour quotas timeline.
back in the old days long before 1952.
“after staying in our ‘home’ for two days we decided that if we were going to meet our quota of 140 hours for the month.
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blondie
Nice to the quotas laid out by the WTS. Per month, 10 hours, back calls (return visits) 6, bible studies, 12 magazines (if placed 6 sets if magazines, WTS said easily should do 6 back calls by calling back on all literature placemenrts, 1 bible study. (where is that in the bible?)