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Ex-JW leaves because of these comics
by blondie invery interesting experience detailing why this person left jws , rest of comics on here.
https://www.aol.com/lifestyle/life-teenage-jehovah-witness-told-075959759.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=ahr0chm6ly93d3cuz29vz2xllmnvbs8&guce_referrer_sig=aqaaac7equlx0zq7ght-721p28fss8uf-gcgd-uqznoo-dj1coxyxvugwf8wu2cvqllgn5h8isrlumcdysycy72pwmaemtjt69ucojpj-bxld--gnfm2y_jxrxdt0pwx_viz0gtife94b-b0yj-w23nnp1qybsemu7gktpvvbsax5kxh.
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What does the Catholic church think of JW?
by Halcon inon a trip to rome a few years ago i asked my friend (who is roman and jw) what the catholic faith thinks of jw.
he simply stated that jw is tolerated by the church but that really not much thought is given to them.
is there an official stance on jw by the catholics?
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blondie
Halcon, the WTS has "adjusted" the baptism questions over time. As I see it, the WTS was trying to distance themselves of the clear words "in the name of the Father, the Son, and the holy spirit. (Note that the WTS does not capitalize "holy spirit" but the KJV does "Holy Ghost." (to match WTS teaching that the holy ghost is not a person). The phrase in Matthew 28:19 has disturbed the WTS because that phrase is often used by other Christian religions to base who is involved is this relationship. The WTS baptism questions show this as time goes by. "Watchtower continued to clarify that baptism is not in the name of any organisation.
"A Christian, therefore, cannot be baptized in the name of the one actually doing the immersing or in the name of any man, nor in the name of any organization, but in the name of the Father, the Son and the holy spirit." Watchtower 1955 Jul 1 p.411
Emphasis of baptism shifted from Jesus to Jehovah.
"We do not dedicate ourselves to a religion, nor to a man, nor to an organization. No, we dedicate ourselves to the Supreme Sovereign of the Universe, our Creator, Jehovah God himself. This makes dedication a very personal relationship between us and Jehovah." Watchtower 1966 Oct 1 pp.603-604
In 1985, a significant change was introduced. In total disregard to Biblical guidance, and Watchtower's previous comments, it became a requirement for the baptismal candidate to announce their desire to become associated with an Organization.
"At the close of the convention baptism talk, the baptism candidates will be in position to answer with depth of understanding and heartfelt appreciation two simple questions that serve to confirm that they recognize the implications of following Christ's example.
The first question is:
On the basis of the sacrifice of Jesus Christ, have you repented of your sins and dedicated yourself to Jehovah to do his will?
The second is:
Do you understand that your dedication and baptism identify you as one of Jehovah's Witnesses in association with God's spirit-directed organization? Having answered yes to these questions, candidates are in a right heart condition to undergo Christian baptism." Watchtower 1985 Jun 1 p.30
In 2019, reference to the holy spirit was removed altogether.
“(1) “Have you repented of your sins, dedicated yourself to Jehovah, and accepted his way of salvation through Jesus Christ?”
(2) “Do you understand that your baptism identifies you as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses in association with Jehovah’s organization?””
ANNOUNCEMENTS AND REMINDERS May 2019
Whilst the baptism questions no longer include the holy spirit, this is not the impression given to the public. The "Bible Questions Answered" section of jw.org has an article What is Baptism? (as of 8 Sep 2023) and answers the question by saying; "'In the name of' means that the one being baptized recognizes the authority and position of the Father and the Son, as well as the role of God’s holy spirit." There is no mention that the baptism questions omit holy spirit and include the organization. https://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/baptism.php
(This has been gradual and most jws don't even remember the questions in the past. This a tactic the WTS uses often, not bringing attention directly to the change, but just slips it in and hope no one notices, One case is that of the 7,000 year creative day, by 1987 no reference, and in 1989, only a quote from a previous article, Jws today don't even know about the 7,000 creative day, the linchpin for the 1975 chronology. Now they just say "thousands and thousands of year)
1987 January 1 WT p. 30
Second, a study of the fulfillment of Bible prophecy and of our location in the stream of time strongly indicate that each of the creative days (Genesis, chapter 1) is 7,000 years long.
(Insight Book Volume 1, Creation, “And, since the seventh day has been continuing for thousands of years, it may reasonably be concluded that each of the six creative periods, or days, was at least thousands of years in length.”
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The Good News Is: The Great-Crowd-Of-Other-Sheep Do Not Exist
by Sea Breeze inthe watchtower conflates two different groups into one fictional church-age group that according to the watchtower, are saved by works and faith/membership in the jehovah witness organization.
according to watchtower, only the now mostly dead 144k receive the promises of god regarding justification .
everbody else missed the boat and must work for their justification for a thousand years.
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blondie
The WTS taught that the great crowd was a secondary group in heaven until about 1932. ""Incidentally, this Washington convention proved to be outstanding for the new flash of truth as to the “great multitude” of Revelation 7:9, proving that its members are not a secondary spiritual class destined to go to heaven but that they are an earthly group identical with the “sheep” of Matthew 25:31-46, made known in 1923, and the “Jonadab” class revealed in 1932 with the release of Vindication, Volume 3.k (Vindication, Vol 3, pp. 77-80; W 1942, p. 374.)" WT 1955 7/1 p.394
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What does the Catholic church think of JW?
by Halcon inon a trip to rome a few years ago i asked my friend (who is roman and jw) what the catholic faith thinks of jw.
he simply stated that jw is tolerated by the church but that really not much thought is given to them.
is there an official stance on jw by the catholics?
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blondie
Just a note: There is one place where God, Jesus, and the holy spirit (holy ghost) is mentioned in regard to baptism. Matthew 28:19 does say this in the King James Version (and the RNWT) "Matthew 28:19 in the King James Version reads: "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:" RNWT: Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit,
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Ex-JW leaves because of these comics
by blondie invery interesting experience detailing why this person left jws , rest of comics on here.
https://www.aol.com/lifestyle/life-teenage-jehovah-witness-told-075959759.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=ahr0chm6ly93d3cuz29vz2xllmnvbs8&guce_referrer_sig=aqaaac7equlx0zq7ght-721p28fss8uf-gcgd-uqznoo-dj1coxyxvugwf8wu2cvqllgn5h8isrlumcdysycy72pwmaemtjt69ucojpj-bxld--gnfm2y_jxrxdt0pwx_viz0gtife94b-b0yj-w23nnp1qybsemu7gktpvvbsax5kxh.
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blondie
Very interesting experience detailing why this person left jws , rest of comics on here. https://www.aol.com/lifestyle/life-teenage-jehovah-witness-told-075959759.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAC7EqulX0Zq7ghT-721p28Fss8uf-gCgD-UqznOo-dj1COxYXVuGwF8wu2cVQLLGn5h8IsRLUmCdYsYcY72PWMAeMTjT69uCOJPj-Bxld--gnFm2y_JxRXdT0pWx_vIz0gtifE94b-B0yJ-W23NnP1QYbSEmu7gkTPVvbSAX5KXh
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Speaking for Almighty God, they endorsed RADIUM
by Nathan Natas inbut was almighty god stupid?.
you decide:.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/nxuaim8j3i0?feature=share.
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blondie
Here's an article that might shed light on this topic: https://sites.google.com/view/channelc-publications/publications/history-practices-beliefs/medical-quakery and this from JWN https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/78562/rutherford-wore-this
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What did the WTS say the "inner rooms" to find safety
by blondie inas recently as 2025, the wts has compared the "inner rooms" to the congregation as a place of safety.
do you remember this?
notice the "weasel words" the wts uses to lay the foundation for "adjustment" or "clarification" of their statements.
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blondie
Just a note KH does not equal congregation. KH is a building, congregation is a group of people. So the WTS is correct in this instance saying it means staying close to fellow members, most likely in the congregation they are currently attending. Some jws have expanded that to thinking that being inside a KH is a literal safe place. So if a mud slide is heading toward the KH you attend (or any KH) don't go there thinking the mud slide somehow won't destroy the building (and you if you are in it).
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Bible Reading Schedule, Dumbed Down?
by Slidin Fast inhas any body noticed that the bible reading schedule has been reduced to one chapter per week.
does any one know if this is a policy change or something temporary?
at this rate the complete cycle will take 22 years plus..
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blondie
Also, now larger margins and larger fonts so smaller study articles not so evident. The worst one I remember was 1/1/71 71 paragraphs p. 8-30???
Repeating words
January 1, 2025 WT study article "Glory to Jehovah" the word glory appears 44 times in a 16 paragraph article.
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It’s now official - The Governing Body Members are called for Legal Deposition in a Major Court Case Against Jehovah’s Witnesses!
by liam init’s now official - the governing body members are called for legal deposition in a major court case against jehovah’s witnesses!
https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/1ke6cgh/its_now_official_the_governing_body_members_are/.
recent court documents show that members of the jehovah’s witnesses governing body — including former member tony morris — have been officially subpoenaed to give sworn testimony regarding cases of sexual abuse in new york and how the organization dealt with (or essentially hid) them.
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blondie
"I doubt the GB will end up in prison." Probably not, but huge money to pay out, but that doesn't get the attention of the WTS enough even, they just don't pay up and keep filing up and up until the reach the top, to the US Supreme Court, not yet. The WTS just lets the daily fines pile up.