us criticises religious .
discrimination in belgium
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No. Nor do they have it right about the Mormons, Scientologists, Khukla, Fran, or Ollie. The first thing you do to admit that you're weaker than something is try to ban it. Why don't we ban that crazy old lady with her cats in Times Square? Because she isn't a threat.
shamus - you are 100% correct. The USA should keep it's nose out of other people's domestic issues. But then, go tell a duck to get the f*ck out of the water.
on another thread johnny crip said thisoff the top of my head .
in the golden age they used the verse about the stones crying out.
to prove that radio, with it's tubes made of different minerials etc.
Maybe they mean Fred and Barney?
so, where are all the stories?
i was told that because one did not have 'jehovahs' protection, the demons would and could have a 'heyday' with you.
so who here is plagued with demons now?
They've gone here:
http://www.suicideforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=4
Read a couple of posts, and see what you think.
i posted a question (re: jesus words at john 10:10) under the research section - it kind of morphed into another question.
someone suggested that i start a new thread - so here goes..... what does it mean to have an "abundance of life" - as spoken about in john 10:10. i don't believe it applies to a life "in abundance" financially or even through the fun we have, etc.
i think it's something more....is it relationships?
Dawn, thanks...One of the weirdest experiences in my life was when I got to visit Earnest Hemingway's house in Sun Valley, even the bedroom where he stuck the shotgun in his mouth and... I asked the friend I was with,"Why would he do that?" My friend answered, "why not? He probably didn't have anything to live for, hell he'd already done everything there was to do." Pleasant thought, huh? Obviously, if a multi-millionaire with vibrant health, fame, passion, talent, and charisma decides on an early check-out, it kind of makes any definition of "abundant life" hard to pin down, at least, on this planet that is.
Living is enjoyment. Not hedonism, enjoyment. The problem is, how much enjoyment can you have if it's finite? If you know that tomorrow, you may (or will) be dead due to _________ (fill in the blank), can you really get full or abundant enjoyment out of something today? Sometimes I think I have that brain malady where the receptors can't absorb enough dopamine; and so I can enjoy stuff, but only on a short term, temp basis. I can never get enough. It's like I forget what enjoyment is, or something. Is the last bite of ice cream as enjoyable as the first? The last woman? The last kiss? This particular subject was one of the primary issues that attracted me to the WTBS. Out of all the religions on the earth, here was the one where I wasn't necessesarily going to have to die to get my reward. This was the only one that based the reward on the fact that I would have the one, absolute, no questions asked, most important thing necessesary to enjoyment: life. And an endless supply of it at that.
So, I guess my answer is: to have an everlasting life.
ok, this is my first post.
i'm 30 years old.
raised in "the truth" my whole life.
"It's a simple fact, though, if I believed everything hook line and sinker she could have what she thinks she wants."
From my experience, you're wrong. All she'll get is an unhappy (probably stoned) husband, and all you'll get is a stomach full of fishing equipment.
If you want to be her spiritual sugar-daddy then do it. Get off this board and don't look back. Being happy is much more important than being right, informed, cutting edge, or anything else, and that's all I think that most people here are trying to say.
john 10:10the thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; i have come that they may have life, and have it to the full.
a friend of mine quoted this and applied it to life "right now" - her application was that jesus meant for people to enjoy life now - not always putting off for the future - but to have joy, peace, etc in this life.
this life is a gift in itself.
I think you should start a new thread. This is an interesting question.
ok, this is my first post.
i'm 30 years old.
raised in "the truth" my whole life.
2evil, first of all (and take this with a grain of salt) forget about your "extended" family. They are as much your "family" as the IRS. As long as you don't need any help, they'll be there to help you. As long as you don't need any support, they will be your most ardent supporters. As long as you don't think for yourself, they will consider you smart. Remember that old joke, "Hi, we're from the government, we're here to help." Well....
"Though she grew up in the "truth" her family was never regular out in service, had a family study or any "spiritual" activities. She never had this so this is what she wants and cannot have because of my views and distrust of the society."
Task, read the italicized part 10 times. You've already got the guilt bug. Jeff Foxworthy did a bit about how wives just naturally "train" their husbands, "The other night my wife and I were reading in bed and she told me that it was getting warm in the room. You know, I was half way to the window before I realized it. The next day she was on the phone with her mother, 'Oh yes, mom, Jeff's comming along fine.'"
Nina would probably be a good person to talk to about what changed her mind as a wife. For me, the mistake was that I accepted the guilt, instead of deciding what was and wasn't going to be enough.
jehovah is such a magical god.
he can make the impossible possible.
he will cure all your problems, he will create logic when there is confusion.
Nos,
And then there is Art. He had a nice job, nice home, nice life, but then his employer got bought by a company that worked only military contracts, so Art quit his job because Jehovah would be hurt. But Art wasn't worried because he had always been told that Jehovah cared for those who put their magic faith in him, and Jehovah would find a way out. But Jehovah just sat there, not so much as a Monty Python fart in Art's general direction. Art is now destitute. He's lost his family, his possessions, his good name. Art is going to commit suicide.
ok, this is my first post.
i'm 30 years old.
raised in "the truth" my whole life.
Nina - question: when people ask for your nationality, do you tell them you're a Virgin? (Just kidding) You and your hubby, dodged a bullet, you are indeed special people.
2evil - do you want to progress? I know, I know, "reaching out" is a wonderful thing, but so is Monday Night Football, Disneyworld, and a warm body on a cold night. If you feel that you must, then get busy. If you feel that you have to because of wife, "elders", mommy & daddy, or whatever other than it's something that YOU need to do, you're a fool if you go along with it. If your wife isn't going to be complete unless she's the wife of an elder, I don't know how to break this to you, but you be screwed because you're on the treadmill to hell. (I garuntee what will be comming next: "Honey, if you really loved me you'd...")
But whatever it is, don't live a lie. That's what I did. Lost all my friends except one. But that last friend (there always seems to be one) stayed with me thru thick and thin. You might know him, his name is Jack. Jack Daniels to be precise.
ok, this is my first post.
i'm 30 years old.
raised in "the truth" my whole life.
2evil, FWIW, I agree with kls, take it slow. But take it deliberately. A couple of questions, your doubts are holding you back from what, exactly? You won't "progess" how, exactly?
Okay, your wife isn't going "to open her mind a bit on her own". Now what? I know what is going on at your place, because it went on at mine. So, if your wife said, "Oh goody, honey, I didn't really want to go to the meeting every sunday anyway, and it doesn't matter if you're an 'elder' or not." Would life be good for you?
Cuz here's what you're headed for. Not this week, nor next month, nor maybe even next year, but sooner or later something is going to happen (sickness, poverty, large spiders) and you will end up blaming yourself because of your lack of spirituality, i.e. God is punishing me! If you've been "weak" in your wife's eyes, she is going to wholeheartedly support you in that misapprehension. (Job) And then she will begin to hate herself because she wasn't "strong" enough to save her family from this sorrow (whatever it is). And what is actually happening at that point is that you two will now be back to back, with gun in hand, and you will begin a slow, inexorable, 10 pace walk away from each other.
Now, as long as you are married to her and want to remain so, it doesn't matter how many cool discussions you have on this board, or how many Ray Franz books you read, or how many of the GB are BFing little furry animals, or how many drunken orgies the FDS have each week. The issue comes down to you, and her, i.e. how much do you want your marriage. And the peanut gallery on this site and/or at Bethel be damned.
