CakeMonkey

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  United Nations

  by CakeMonkey in

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  can someone give me the backstory to the united nations thing?

  all i know is that the jdubs believe the un to be part of revelations.

  i read the long post earlier about the letter from the un, but i don't understand the significance.

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  CakeMonkey

  Thank you, Farkel. Can you or someone tell me why the United Nations (and first the League of Nations, as I've been reading) was so villified in the first place? Its sounds more than a little strange to be angry at the United Nations and accuse it of being a 'tool of Satan' when in fact it's actually been a sometimes great stablizer of world affairs. Does anyone know the thinking behind this? Was the League of Nations threatening towards the witnesses in any way? And does the United Nations know that (however many) millions of Jwitnesses think it is the work of the Devil? It's one of the weirdest things I've ever heard, honestly.
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  United Nations

  by CakeMonkey in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  can someone give me the backstory to the united nations thing?

  all i know is that the jdubs believe the un to be part of revelations.

  i read the long post earlier about the letter from the un, but i don't understand the significance.

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  Thanks Valis and Tonyend, that helps. Carmel, I have no idea what you're talking about. Do you have a link?
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  United Nations

  by CakeMonkey in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  can someone give me the backstory to the united nations thing?

  all i know is that the jdubs believe the un to be part of revelations.

  i read the long post earlier about the letter from the un, but i don't understand the significance.

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  CakeMonkey

  Thanks Blondie and El. I spent a few hours yesterday read links and other documents and I'm totally lost. What I was hoping for here was a few paragraphs to sum up the whole issue. Just something general. Then the documents and links will make sense. Thank you!
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  United Nations

  by CakeMonkey in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  can someone give me the backstory to the united nations thing?

  all i know is that the jdubs believe the un to be part of revelations.

  i read the long post earlier about the letter from the un, but i don't understand the significance.

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  CakeMonkey

  Can someone give me the backstory to the United Nations thing? All I know is that the jdubs believe the UN to be part of Revelations. I read the long post earlier about the letter from the UN, but I don't understand the significance. Thank you.
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  The Internet and Apostasy

  by CakeMonkey in

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  has the internet and forums like these caused an exodus from the j-dubs?

  when i left in the early 1990s i met support groups through the yellow pages but it still felt like i was the only one in the world who was an apostate.

  i've come to this forum in the last year to browse because my brother has now left.

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  How interesting about the library. Thanks for your welcome. I'm trying to support my (literal) brother in his decision to leave so I'm remembering all sorts of thoughts and arguments. Trying to remember how it feels to go through it. I've processed so much of what being a witness in childhood/teenhood had meant to me. Now it's like a refresher course, but with a few decades distance. Nicer this time around. . . What I like about the internet is that you can see how many posters there are. People leaving now can't know what a great commodity it must be to have a semi-anonymous support group, open 24 hours. I honestly thought I was crazy for leaving when I did, as a teenager. NO ONE left where I came from. Especially not a girl and especially not because I had done anything "bad" I just told the elders I thought it was all a load of crap. I remember the Revelations-inspired nightmares and how the vultures were going to pick my eyes out since I was an apostate, or some weird thing like that. Those took awhile to get over.
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  The Internet and Apostasy

  by CakeMonkey in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  has the internet and forums like these caused an exodus from the j-dubs?

  when i left in the early 1990s i met support groups through the yellow pages but it still felt like i was the only one in the world who was an apostate.

  i've come to this forum in the last year to browse because my brother has now left.

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  CakeMonkey

  Has the internet and forums like these caused an exodus from the j-dubs? When I left in the early 1990s I met support groups through the yellow pages but it still felt like I was the only one in the world who was an apostate. I've come to this forum in the last year to browse because my brother has now left. (!!!!) His actions have rekindled my interest in why I left, and also to remind myself what it's like to adjust to the real world. I'm wondering if all the free information online has caused an exodus of people that would otherwise still be in the religion. I remember a tour of Bethel (brooklyn) and there was a special library of "apostate" literature under lock and key. Only the big shots could read it. So has the internet given people the knowledge (and support) to leave that they otherwise wouldn't have? Are the numbers in exodus from the J-dub's higher now than they were before the internet? What do the experts thinks? Thanks.