it's obvious the bible is very clear on a actual hell of fire.
"cursed into the eternal fire with the devil and his angels", rev.20:15.
"lake of fire", rev.21:8 "fire and brimstone".
About 20%of evangelical christians believe in annihilation and also two archhibishops of canterbury have entertained the idear.
Many churchman believe the bible is realy describing a separation of the wicked from God and that is just like torture.
Adventists believe in a hell of fire for the wicked but a fire that lasts for a time only as a punishment for the wicked.
my taste in music is pretty eclectic.
i was listening to some andrea bocelli this afternoon and found this on youtube.. .
oh my god!!!.
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how can i cut down without going teetotal?
i love the taste of wine, i'm not fussed with other drinks but just need to rein in it a bit.. going wine-free tonight and tomorrow, as i'm out socially.. i also need to shift a few pounds.. thank you, everyone..
yes new hope and hapiness expensive wines might be the answer. I have a bottle of wine in the cupboard and it was nearly $600 but there is a ban on drinking it. I had the idear to make a collection and make some money because they do go up in value
i'm not gay but i do support gay people against hard line christians that forget the principles our lord demonstrated when he lived among us.
jesus had compassion for the outcasts women and tax collectors outside of society of that day.
i find it hard to accept gay people haveing relationships and sexual relations but i find it even more devient of me not to show christian love and acceptance of these people.. i am encouraged by the response of the netherlands union conference of sdas and as you know the sdas are like a sister church to the jw religion and is just as conservative.. the world sda church has adopted guidlines for the response to alternative sexual practices.
Gday Quelly, Congratulations on your baptism and with it your vow to follow the Lord Jesus. Easter in the early church was a favorite time to be baptised
i'm not gay but i do support gay people against hard line christians that forget the principles our lord demonstrated when he lived among us.
jesus had compassion for the outcasts women and tax collectors outside of society of that day.
i find it hard to accept gay people haveing relationships and sexual relations but i find it even more devient of me not to show christian love and acceptance of these people.. i am encouraged by the response of the netherlands union conference of sdas and as you know the sdas are like a sister church to the jw religion and is just as conservative.. the world sda church has adopted guidlines for the response to alternative sexual practices.
I'm not gay but I do support gay people against hard line christians that forget the principles our Lord demonstrated when he lived among us. Jesus had compassion for the outcasts women and tax collectors outside of society of that day. I find it hard to accept gay people haveing relationships and sexual relations but I find it even more devient of me not to show christian love and acceptance of these people.
I am encouraged by the response of the Netherlands Union conference of SDAs and as you know the SDAs are like a sister church to the JW religion and is just as conservative.
The world SDA church has adopted guidlines for the response to alternative sexual practices. On the 4th April 2014 that would deny practicing gay people from church membership. The general conference president Ted Wilson has said the recommendations are only guidlines not policy. That being said guidlines become policy and then become law.
In responce to this situation the Netherlands Union Conference has advised all churches in its union to fully commit themselves to ensuring that LGBTI individuals feel safe in the church. I addition NUC leadership says it would strongly advise against any steps to revoke the membership of LGBTI people given the unsafe environement this would create in churches .
was just wondering how many gay exjw's were on this site, and how did you deal with being in this organization?
and also, how did you end up leaving?.
There is also a movie produced about two gay couples and one lesbian couple and their journey with the church it can be purchased on the internet for about $10 and is very informative and shows the lives of real people dealing with the issues. The name of it is Seventh Gay Adventists. You will be supprised at some of the outcomes
was just wondering how many gay exjw's were on this site, and how did you deal with being in this organization?
and also, how did you end up leaving?.
Some of you might be interested on how other churches are progressing in their acceptance of Gay and lesbian people.
The SDAs have held a meeting in Cape Town with the title 'I gods Image' but Gay And Lesbian people have responded with a video because practicing Gay and lesbian people wern't invited.
a lot of exjws need an answer to "where else to go?
" and some people seem to need to belong to an organization.
doing some research on answers.yahoo.com i noticed that both jws and mormons come in for a lot of criticism for being manipulative cults.
Here is a movie that got to the higher ups. It was shown to many congregations throughout the world
a lot of exjws need an answer to "where else to go?
" and some people seem to need to belong to an organization.
doing some research on answers.yahoo.com i noticed that both jws and mormons come in for a lot of criticism for being manipulative cults.
My family and I are now Anglican but I still like to read spectrum magazine to keep updated on how the church SDA is progressing
a lot of exjws need an answer to "where else to go?
" and some people seem to need to belong to an organization.
doing some research on answers.yahoo.com i noticed that both jws and mormons come in for a lot of criticism for being manipulative cults.
Just to update about the church. The SDAs now have female ministers and is going well.
Recently the SDAs held a summit on sexuality in Cape Town in South Africa. 350 SDA church leaders attended including pastors academics and human services experts.
As a result there is a proposed guidelines to deny membership to its practicing LGBT members. However within the denomination decisions about church membership are made by the local congregation so it will be interestinghow this works out.
The LGBT community has hit back with a video.
