Your flowery description of what happens during the Easter holiday does not in any way answer the question both Avishai and I have asked. If you do not answer it directly you are not honest-hearted, and are nothing but a mealy-mouthed know-it-all.
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Christmas not Xmas!
by hibiscusfire in.
if you are celebrating christmas do not x christ out of it.. if you are celebrating christmas do you know why???.
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Christmas not Xmas!
by hibiscusfire in.
if you are celebrating christmas do not x christ out of it.. if you are celebrating christmas do you know why???.
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Oh “Xmas” is from Satan,
As some so like to say,
It’s just verbal masturbatin’
‘bout a certain random day.
Some say the X stands for the Cross
Some say, “No that’s a farce!”
They’re the self-appointed Godly Boss
Just what is up their arse?
Perhaps a corncob’s lodged real tight
And that’s what makes them pick
I’d like to help them if I might
Extract it with a stick!
Yes Christ did come to set us free
In Him, not laws we hope.
To Hibbie I say solemnly, ”Who died and made you Pope?!”
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Christmas not Xmas!
by hibiscusfire in.
if you are celebrating christmas do not x christ out of it.. if you are celebrating christmas do you know why???.
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What do you call some one who, faced with hard evidence, continues to argue as though nothing had changed?
Willy, the best word I can think of is "closed-minded."
I think this may be Saturday Night Live's Dana Carvey signing on as "The Church Lady." The smug arrogance, the refusal to present her thoughts--not as opinions--but as "what is right" is the sign of a hard-headed Guardian. People such as Hibiscusfire, J.F. Rutherford and the average Pharisee of Jesus' day have exactly the type of mindset that results in religious authoritarianism.
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Christmas not Xmas!
by hibiscusfire in.
if you are celebrating christmas do not x christ out of it.. if you are celebrating christmas do you know why???.
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Easter is another topic I'm talking about Christmas and X'ing Christ out of it....
It's entirely ON topic, Hibiscus. You have noted your exception to using "Xmas" in place of "Christmas" because of your opinion that it is a Satanic removing of Christ's name from Christmas.Christmas is celebrating Jesus' birth. Easter is celebrating His sacrifice so in any case why put the X there at Christmas time?
You have here shown no problem with using the name "Easter" with reference to a holiday about "His sacrifice." But you yourself must know where the name Easter comes from, don't you?
The English word Easter is derived from the names "Eostre" - "Eastre" - "Astarte" or Ashtaroth. Astarte was introduced into the British Isles by the Druids and is just another name for Beltis or Ishtar of the Chaldeans and Babylonians.
So since using "Xmas" as a mere abbreviation for Christmas is so Satanic to you, how on EARTH can you justify using the entirely pagan word "Easter" for a holiday meant to celebrate "His sacrifice?" At least the X is regarded by many (although not you) to represent the cross. The word Easter is clearly and obviously pagan.
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Christmas not Xmas!
by hibiscusfire in.
if you are celebrating christmas do not x christ out of it.. if you are celebrating christmas do you know why???.
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Well don't you think this a great opportunity to learn the truth about the X in Christmas and now do the right thing?
What you regard as "the truth about the X in Christmas" does not equal "the truth about the X in Christmas." Your insistence that it does suggests a fascinating delusion of grandeur.How would you like it if lets say your name is Abraham, would you like if you were to receive some award and they presented your name on the flyer as X receives award for "The most outstanding and dedicated worker. People wouldn't know who X is.
If this example you've cited had anything to do with what we were talking about I might agree, but it doesn't. The truth is that many people do in fact abbreviate their names. For instance the name people use for me is actually an abbreviation of my full name. So they actually eliminate five whole letters from my real name when they use this abbreviation. How scandalous!!! Not... People DO know what that abbreviation stands for, don't they?
Wouldn't you feel stupid in front hundreds of people who never even saw you far less know your stupid name.....
No, no, I would not feel stupid, Hibiscus. What I WOULD feel stupid about is backing myself into the silly, narrow-minded, legalistic, arrogant, Pharisaical corner you've just found yourself in. -
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Christmas not Xmas!
by hibiscusfire in.
if you are celebrating christmas do not x christ out of it.. if you are celebrating christmas do you know why???.
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Well, If you're that fired up about X-mas being blasphemous, how do you feel about Easter being called easter?
OUTSTANDING point, Avishai. An excellent way to (one would hope) give pause to someone whose petty legalism is completely out of control. Let's see what happens.
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Christmas not Xmas!
by hibiscusfire in.
if you are celebrating christmas do not x christ out of it.. if you are celebrating christmas do you know why???.
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All right, Hibiscus... I'm going to suggest you really take a few minutes and consider what you're writing here. Ask yourself what's the problem with the Watchtower Society? (Okay, don't answer that--I know there are too many to list here :o) ) What I'm referring to is...
The attempt by others to assert that something is true--because WE think it is true, and to insist that our rules, perspectives and guidelines are the only ones to be followed in order to be "right."
This is not only true of JWs, but also of authoritarianism in general. If you're not careful, you're going to find yourself slipping back into the same type of thinking that LED to organizations like Jehovah's Witnesses. Remember Paul's counsel against having 'debates over words.' Your insistence that using "Xmas" is obviously wrong--when other people disagree has created an unnecessary debate over a trifling matter.
Now what's going through your mind now? Are you about to say something like, "I don't think making sure "Christ" is put back in "Christmas" is a trifling matter at all. I love my Lord and Savior and want to bring glory to Him."? Do you love Him so much that you're willing to resort to insisting on little rules that make you feel complete--but amount to the legalism He fought so hard against when on earth?
Remember His aggravation at the Pharisees over their scrupulous adherence to following all the little rules--and their extrapolation of them? ("A tenth of the dill; a tenth of the cumin...") Also remember Paul's words in Galations about "Standing fast in the freedom with which Christ has made us free, not being entangled again with the yoke of bondage."
If people here are in fact Christians, the important thing is faith in Christ and living as He lived--not jumping on whether its right or wrong to write Xmas--when it's clear not all agree with this. And if they are not Christians--or are just confused for the time being--expressing your personal opinions by gratuitously asserting them does nothing to attract them to Christianity.
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Christmas not Xmas!
by hibiscusfire in.
if you are celebrating christmas do not x christ out of it.. if you are celebrating christmas do you know why???.
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If you are celebrating Christmas do not X Christ out of it.
Well it means cross OUT!!
An X is an x ----cross out
A + is a cross there is a difference.
Hibiscusfire,
When I was a JW, there was a particularly bigoted, narrow-minded guy I worked with who used to say the same thing. He was kind of a piece of work. On one hand, he was always cutting down JWs, making snide remarks about me behind my back--even though I never spoke to him about the organization unless he initiated it himself. On the other hand he once tried to tell me I could no longer type the word "Xmas" on our commercial cartridge labels. (We worked at a radio station.) You see, we had to type information on the labels so the on-air people would know, for instance, the last few words of the ad. Then they'd know what their cue was to start talking. With limited space, I always took advantage of abbreviations, and during the Christmas season, so many outcues involved this word, I'd type "Xmas"--as did all of the other announcers.
He approached me, saying, "Don't type Xmas anymore." I had no idea why not, so when I asked why, he said, "Because I was always taught that "x" meant the "missing integer," and why should Christ be missing from Christmas?"
This cracked me up, because he was so scathingly judgmental about what MY beliefs were--although I fully cooperated with the staff during their holiday. But when it came to his personal viewpoint about the letter "x," apparently the entire staff was to fall in line.
Hibiscusfire, I respect this perspective you have, but understand please that it is exactly that: your perspective. Because you think that X cannot mean a cross--and must mean a "cross out"--does not mean that everyone must accept this perspective, does it? Now I could probably do a little research as to why X does not always mean "the missing integer." (For instance, the earliest understanding of it as such came in the 1600s from mathmetician Rene Descartes. He did not limit unknown quantities to "x", but also to "y" and "z.") But before I get too far with that, doesn't it feel like we're starting to go down that Watchtower path again? Finding fault with little things. Straining out the gnat? While there are many reasons why people frequent this message board, basically it is here to provide support and encouragement for people trying to heal from such Pharisaical legalism.
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Embarrassing moments at work
by damselfly ini think we need a fun fluffy thread today, so this is my attempt at starting one.
at work we have a big bathtub with air jets.
clients come in for a hydrobath, (hopefully remember their swimsuit 'cause i've seen so many naked people by now it's getting boring), leave and then, oh joy!, i get to clean the tub.
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Okay, years ago, when on the air at the radio station where I worked as a DJ, I was wheeling around in my chair in front of the mixing console in the tiny broadcasting studio I was in. Problem: there was no plastic chair mat, and over time the chair's casters were ripping up the carpeting so that there were lots of strips and chunks of carpet fibers lying about. I fly back in the chair to grab a commercial cartridge--but a carpet chunk gets caught in the caster. The chair stops moving--but I don't! The strength of my kick sends me flying off the chair a bit. In the attempt to right myself, I am falling all over the studio: BOP--BAM--BOOM--BOOP--BING--BIPPITY--BOP!!! Each moment I think I've caught myself, I haven't and keep falling, trying to grab onto anything. WHAP--PLOONK--THUD! I think the whole experience lasts about fifteen seconds; it truly must have been a sight to see. I so completely wrenched my spine, I was not right until after at least two chiropractic adjustments.
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Landmark
by donkey ini am looking for those here who might have attended the landmark forum.
i have thought about attending and was wondering what your experiences were.
i have had people tell me to avoid it at all costs and others tell me it changed their lives.. here is the curriculum:.
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My former business partner was deeply involved in this organization. In fact he even went to work for them. At some point he began to see serious problems, and this ultimately led to his hiring an exit counselor for he and his fiancee.
Are you familiar with Landmark Education's roots? It is basically the new name of "est" (Erhard Seminar Training) one of the big programs associated with the Human Potential movement in the 70s. Find out more about it and its founder here...