Posts by back2dafront

hahhaha...J-Lo is cool and all, but there's more to admire in Halle Berry to me. And Angelina Jolie. Realistically though, I think I'd vote for someone like the Venus Williams....now we're talking pure talent.

Celia,

I saw a book at the bookstore full of quotes from Bush that make no sense whatsoever or exemplify him slaughtering the English language. It's embarrassing yet hilarious!

Reborn,

Right on dude. Excellent research - thanks for bringing out those points. I saw a bumber sticker that said:

BUSH CHEATED

HAHAHHAHA

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George Bush most admirable male??!!

by back2dafront in

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http://my.aol.com/news/news_story.psp?type=4&cat=0800&id=021228153038559146

poll: bushes, j. lo among most admired

the associated press.

back2dafront

http://my.aol.com/news/news_story.psp?type=4&cat=0800&id=021228153038559146

Poll: Bushes, J. Lo Among Most Admired
The Associated Press
Dec 28 2002 3:30PM
WASHINGTON (AP) - Hillary Rodham Clinton, Laura Bush and J. Lo have something in common: Americans like them.

A Gallup poll found the nation divided in the contest for ``most admired'' woman. Among men, President Bush remained the clear favorite for the second year in a row.

Clinton, the former first lady who now represents New York in the Senate, and her successor in the White House, Laura Bush, topped Gallup's list of women along with talk show host Oprah Winfrey. Clinton was favored by 7 percent of those surveyed; Bush and Winfrey had 6 percent each.

Among men, the president had a commanding 28 percent for men - well ahead of the runner-up, former president Jimmy Carter who was in single digits.

Jennifer Lopez's new movie and album, along with heavy media coverage of her pending wedding nuptials to actor Ben Affleck, boosted her to the sixth spot with 2 percent. That put her on par with incoming Sen. Elizabeth Dole, R-N.C., and national security adviser Condoleezza Rice. Former first lady Barbara Bush and former British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher each got 3 percent.

Among younger respondents, Lopez outpolled them all with 10 percent.

Party lines had some bearing on results. Clinton pulled 15 percent among Democrats; the first lady led among Republicans, with 13 percent. They remain no match for Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis, who won 60 percent of Americans' vote in 1963 following her husband's assassination.

President Bush had earned 39 percent in the wake of last year's terrorist attacks, a record high among men since the survey began in 1948. His dip in Gallup's 2002 poll mirrors his sliding approval ratings over the last several months.

Events also pushed up Carter's standing, with the recent Nobel Peace Prize winner rising from just 1 percent in 2001. He was the favorite among Democrats polled.

Secretary of State Colin Powell, Pope John Paul II, former President Bill Clinton and the Rev. Billy Graham each earned 2 to 4 percent.

The telephone survey of 1,009 adults was conducted Dec. 16-17 and has a sampling error of plus or minus 3 percentage points. Respondents were asked to name the two people they admire most.

Only one man, Academy Award winning actor Denzel Washington, from the entertainment world made it into the men's top-10. He rounded out that list along with former South African President Nelson Mandela, former Vice President Al Gore and former President Reagan.

Poet Maya Angelou and former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright also made the top-10 women's list.

On the Net:

The Gallup Organization: http://www.gallup.com

He wasn't even elected by the people, I don't see how they'd vote him most admirable male of the year. I would've voted for Michael Moore. Then Antonio Banderas for being in such hot scenes w/ Angelina Jolie in Original Sin. :-)

Edited by - back2dafront on 28 December 2002 17:25:42

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Jesus Sacrifice - How Stupid and Illogical

by MrMoe in

jesus dying for our sins... um, why.. because adam made a mistake?

based upon what?

jehovah's rules?

back2dafront

These folks clearly don't want to have anything to do with God, they hate Him and everything that represents Him.
They do not want to be saved. That is their choice.
They do not want to go to heaven. That is their choice.

Wait a sec, buddy. Personally, if God appeared right now and explained his purpose and basically made Himself known, I'd do whatever I could to please Him. So an "unbeliever" does not automatically fall into all the categories you mention above.

It's hard for me to grasp the concept of the God in the Bible, but that doesn't mean I don't believe. I'm just waiting for the time to come when all will be known - then I'll know for sure what and how to believe. Just seems to make more sense to me that way, instead of trying to interpret writings that are claimed to be inspired by God, but knowing mankind has been deceiving since day 1....

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New York New York

by SixofNine in

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six and fosl (the fruit of six's loins) will be visiting nyc between dec 27 and jan 1 (fosl's b-day present).. please share your thoughts on where to go, what to see, what to do.. i'd love to meet up with any nyc apostates as well.

contact me via e-mail if you're interested.

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I'm sorry, but I don't think there's anything wrong at all with wanting to see Ground Zero. I used to live in NYC and haven't been back there since 9/11, but one of these days I will return and will definitely go by to see it. People go see Pearl Harbor - people visit the Holocaust musuem(s) as well - it's not disrespectful at all - it's getting able to see the location of a tragic, historical event, that's all. That's not disrespectful IMO. I can definitely see how people could be offended by others visiting the site, but all I can say is that I would hope visitors would understand that fact and not be laughing and joking around while there. That sort of conduct would easily offend a person who lost a loved one or is just a New Yorker who saw it all happen.

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New York New York

by SixofNine in

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friends

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six and fosl (the fruit of six's loins) will be visiting nyc between dec 27 and jan 1 (fosl's b-day present).. please share your thoughts on where to go, what to see, what to do.. i'd love to meet up with any nyc apostates as well.

contact me via e-mail if you're interested.

back2dafront

My favorite night club is Cafe Wha? on McDougal street in Greenwich Village. Check it out - you won't be dissappointed!

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Will the guilt pass?

by rebel in

"and let us consider one another to incite to love and fine works, not forsaking the gathering of ourselves together, as some have the custom.....".

i didn't go to the meeting today (again) and i felt dreadful.

my family went and i stayed behind.

back2dafront

I can relate. That's pretty much how I was feeling about my life for a whole year prior to leaving. Felt like I was living the JW lifestyle for the sake of my family and friends. That wasn't being true to myself though. As much as I love my family and friends, to belong to an organization I don't agree with is not right. It's giving a false pretense of myself, and that bothered me more than anything else. I'll never forget the last meeting I attended - knowing it was the last time I'd ever see a lot of those people, and knowing it was my last meeting as an active Witness. I even gave the closing prayer. I was extremely anxious to get on with my life, but it was difficult to leave behind hundreds of really good, close friends.

If you have serious doubts about the faith, you should research them to the best of your ability and then make a stand either with the Witnesses or without. I'll tell you one thing, I will not begin to pretend that I didn't have very good times while being a Witness, however the happiness I have now is uncomparable. The only times I'm unhappy is when I think about the friendships lost, but I can only hope that maybe someday some of those, if not all of them, will be restored. Decisions like these aren't easy, but being true to myself means a heck of a lot to me. I do not like to be mis-represented in any way, and being one of Jehovah's Witnesses went against so many things that I felt were right. Gotta do what you gotta do. I'm sure others will have encouraging things to say as well. Hang in there!!

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This is unRAEL

by donkey in

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anyone followed the raelians?

i find them fascinating.

http://www.rael.org.

back2dafront

Neyank, very good points - very well stated. I agree with your outlook 100%.

There are so many different things that could or could not be, could have happened or possibly didn't...there are millions of righteous-hearted people in the world who want the answers, the truth. And there are thousands of different avenues one can take to get that truth. I think a truly loving God would take into consideration the fact that our history is murky, and that due to thousands of different speculations, research articles, religions, etc. it is very difficult for a human to come to a firm conclusion of what is truth and factual. That's why what's important to me is one's heart condition, not what religion they belong to, which Bible they read or whether or not they believe in God. We can speculate for hours on end, but the only way we'll ever know how life got here and whether or not there is a God or aliens is when the time comes when He or they make it known. If one has a good heart and makes an effort to seek out the truth, I can't imagine what God could want more from anyone. I guess time will tell...

I wonder why the belief in the supernatural, gods, etc. was evidently really strong thousands of years ago, and now the average person thinks it's all fictitious. Wonder what happened through the years.....

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This is unRAEL

by donkey in

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friends

anyone followed the raelians?

i find them fascinating.

http://www.rael.org.

back2dafront

Dirfya,

We could go back and forth on this one for hours - the credibility of the Bible is highly debatable. Islam say the Koran is inspired as well, and to prove it they show how the frequency of the name Allah is used througout the book in mathematical, complicated ways that only God could ever think of. So what makes the Bible God's inspired word and not the Koran, eh?

Of the "Seeing is Believing" Class.

:-P

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This is unRAEL

by donkey in

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friends

anyone followed the raelians?

i find them fascinating.

http://www.rael.org.

back2dafront

Yes we can be sure that he hasn't, other than the angels that is. Sure, it's obvious that the universe is simply too vast for God not to have that in mind, but he had to START populating the planets somewhere ....... didn't he? Why is it so difficult for you to see that the earth was the starting point? Why do you insist that God has ALREADY populated other parts of the universe? The Bible itself disproves such a theory.

WHAT? And what profound proof is there that the earth was the first life created in the whole universe?