I guess I asked an unanswerable question. It´s impossible to know how many JW´s will end up being JW´s their entire lives because no one has actually kept track or could keep track of so many people for such a long time.
The only "hard" data we have is the PEW information that says that 2/3 of born ins eventually leave...
I just don´t see that, however. A vast majority of the people who were in when I left 4 years ago... are still in.
Maybe I need more time to know the answer? Maybe I need to rephrase it?
Out of the people you knew when you were a witness, how many are out?
Personally, my count is 10 out of around 300.
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How many JW´s spend their whole lives being JW´s?
by ILoveTTATT2 inever since i became an exjw activist... i have wondered, how many people can i hope to reach?.
what are the odds that my parents and loved ones will live out the remainder of their lives as jehovah´s witnesses?.
is there a way to calculate the odds that any jw will remain a jw for the rest of their lives?.
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How many JW´s spend their whole lives being JW´s?
by ILoveTTATT2 inever since i became an exjw activist... i have wondered, how many people can i hope to reach?.
what are the odds that my parents and loved ones will live out the remainder of their lives as jehovah´s witnesses?.
is there a way to calculate the odds that any jw will remain a jw for the rest of their lives?.
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I would venture to say born ins who have parents and other relatives who are J.W.`s and that makes it so much harder to break from the mould as their is too much to lose ,family and life long friends that you have only known since birth.
I don´t know about that... I think born-ins are the ones who tend to get out, a lot! I lost my family and I still went out...
The emotional bond can be so hard to break free from regardless of the knowledge one might have gained that something is not what it seems ,it just doesn`t add up ,or doubts that appear.
It could be overwhelming for many people to face that and bite the bullet.
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Who Do You Think Will Be The Nominees For President In The Next US Election?
by minimus ini think trump will be the nominee for the republicans and the democrats... i have no clue.
i hope bernie sanders runs again and wonder if hillary would dare go for a rematch..
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I think Trump will be the nominee for the Republicans and the Democrats... I have no clue. I hope Bernie Sanders runs again and wonder if Hillary would dare go for a rematch.
I think the same. Trump will be the Republican candidate, I hope Bernie runs again for the democrats, and I really hope Hillary does NOT run again. -
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What was the EXACT exJW website you first visited and why EXACTLY did you visit it?
by ILoveTTATT2 ini had two episodes of visiting exjw websites:one time around 2007 when i just googled "jehovah´s witnesses" and dared to look at those sites.
i was scared and i promised myself i would never come back to them.
however, that one didn´t really count.the moment that woke me up was this:i got to know that whitney heichel was a jw and murdered by another jw, because i overheard that conversation in a kingdom hall.i looked up the news and in one of the news comments, there was one where an exjw was complaining that they were hijacking her funeral and they were really trying to downplay the fact that her murderer was a jw... and then it said "visit jwfacts.com"... which i did.and the rest... is history.what exactly got you onto an apostate website when you woke up?
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Did anyone wake up because of someone you saw or heard at a convention? Would you have gone to jwfacts if you had known about it in a convention, like paleemperor is trying to do?
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What was the EXACT exJW website you first visited and why EXACTLY did you visit it?
by ILoveTTATT2 ini had two episodes of visiting exjw websites:one time around 2007 when i just googled "jehovah´s witnesses" and dared to look at those sites.
i was scared and i promised myself i would never come back to them.
however, that one didn´t really count.the moment that woke me up was this:i got to know that whitney heichel was a jw and murdered by another jw, because i overheard that conversation in a kingdom hall.i looked up the news and in one of the news comments, there was one where an exjw was complaining that they were hijacking her funeral and they were really trying to downplay the fact that her murderer was a jw... and then it said "visit jwfacts.com"... which i did.and the rest... is history.what exactly got you onto an apostate website when you woke up?
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I made a post (comment) on a board of a few people before H20 was in full force - about 1998-99. I'd put in a search for xJWs and nothing around probably before '98/'99. There was some site where I'd made a comment about the religion and replies seemed clueless re/JWs and surprised to hear. Then H20 was created one day -- the hwy. to reality. There may have been one other site before this one (JWN which is best ever/so grateful for Simon) and after H20 -- anyone know?
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What was the EXACT exJW website you first visited and why EXACTLY did you visit it?
by ILoveTTATT2 ini had two episodes of visiting exjw websites:one time around 2007 when i just googled "jehovah´s witnesses" and dared to look at those sites.
i was scared and i promised myself i would never come back to them.
however, that one didn´t really count.the moment that woke me up was this:i got to know that whitney heichel was a jw and murdered by another jw, because i overheard that conversation in a kingdom hall.i looked up the news and in one of the news comments, there was one where an exjw was complaining that they were hijacking her funeral and they were really trying to downplay the fact that her murderer was a jw... and then it said "visit jwfacts.com"... which i did.and the rest... is history.what exactly got you onto an apostate website when you woke up?
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I had two episodes of visiting exJW websites:
One time around 2007 when I just googled "Jehovah´s Witnesses" and dared to look at those sites. I was scared and I promised myself I would never come back to them. However, that one didn´t really count.
The moment that woke me up was this:
I got to know that Whitney Heichel was a JW and murdered by another JW, because I overheard that conversation in a Kingdom Hall.
I looked up the news and in one of the news comments, there was one where an exJW was complaining that they were hijacking her funeral and they were really trying to downplay the fact that her murderer was a JW... and then it said "visit jwfacts.com"... which I did.
And the rest... is history.
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How many JW´s spend their whole lives being JW´s?
by ILoveTTATT2 inever since i became an exjw activist... i have wondered, how many people can i hope to reach?.
what are the odds that my parents and loved ones will live out the remainder of their lives as jehovah´s witnesses?.
is there a way to calculate the odds that any jw will remain a jw for the rest of their lives?.
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Ever since I became an exJW activist... I have wondered, how many people can I hope to reach?
What are the odds that my parents and loved ones will live out the remainder of their lives as Jehovah´s Witnesses?
Is there a way to calculate the odds that any JW will remain a JW for the rest of their lives?
What do you think? About the methods and about the odds?
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Apostasy movie is now avalable on Amazon.
by blownaway ini just bought a copy.
14.99 in usa.
buy a copy and support this movie.
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I couldn't get it on Amazon so I got it on iTunes:
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The Children Act: The Movie - By Ian McEwan and directed by Richard Eyre
by darkspilver inrichard eyre's film adaptation of ian mcewan's book the childen act has it's world premiere at the toronto international film festival in september 2017. the children act.
emma thompson and stanley tucci star in this adaptation of the novel by ian mcewan, about a high-court judge who finds personal and professional crises colliding when she is asked to rule in the case of a brilliant 18-year-old boy who is refusing the blood transfusion that would save his life.. adapted by booker prize–winning author ian mcewan from his own novel, this riveting drama stars two-time academy award winner emma thompson as a british high court judge tasked with making a decision that will speak to our most fraught questions regarding religious tolerance — and could mean life or death for an innocent young man.. judge fiona maye (emma thompson) is married to her work, which has become a problem for her husband, jack (stanley tucci), who announces that he wants to have an affair.
treating the matter more as an annoyance than a life-altering crisis, fiona kicks jack out and focuses on her current case.
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Finally! We have a trailer!
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I may have found a clue to Watchtower's sudden reversal on organ transplants
by ILoveTTATT2 ini have read countless times in this site and others that there is speculation that someone high up in the watchtower world required an organ transplant, and then because of that, their position that they had held since 1967 changed in 1980.i believe i have found a clue to who that person might have been.
i leave it to the exjw community to investigate further, but it's tantalizing!it is waay too much of a coincidence that:lee cordaway got a phone call in january 1980 that his kidneys were failing.
lee was 18 years old at the time.watchtower printed its "organ transplants are allowed now" article in march 1980.. january 1981: lee goes into the organ donor list for new kidneys.august 1981: lee receives his new kidney.september 1981: lee's new kidney is rejected, he has to have it removed.
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Well, the report says that most of the witnesses rejected ALG... globulin... because they considered it to be a blood product. So either it was banned outright or we had some really stupid JW's who rejected stuff that was already allowed...