Athanasius

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  Im hearing some say that the Org is about to reverse the No Blood policy - about to change...

  by BeaverEater in

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  uh, i wonder if that is true... hearing this from friends within bethel... gonna laugh my ass of if they change this....

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  In the US there are patient privacy laws. So it may be possible to keep one's hospital admittance confidential. Even if the elders did inquire, patient confidentiality would prohibit the hospital staff from divulging what medical treatment the JW received. Moreover, if the elders ask, you doesn't have to tell them every detail of your hospital stay.
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  2. friends

  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  Looks like Lloyd is stuck with making JW videos if he wants to keep getting donations. His Standup Comedy video bombed with only 5.5k views. Whereas his Shunning Changes video is at 63k views. His The Bible's Historical Inaccuracies video hasn't well either, only 14K views.

  Interestingly his latest video, You Should Not Fear Him, which is merely a rehash of some of his older videos, has been up only two days and has 9.5k views.

  It appears that Lloyd's viewers aren't interested in his attempt at comedy. Moreover, his viewers don't seem that interested in Biblical criticism. Their primary concern seems to be what is going on in the Watchtower.

  Unfortunately for Lloyd, the JW religion is progressive, and he has been out for almost two decades. Much of what he was taught as "JW Truth" twenty years ago is "Old Light" and is no longer Watchtower doctrine.

  If Lloyd wants his supporters to keep donating so he can keep his present lifestyle, he will have to work and keep abreast of Watchtower rules and regulations. He will also have to do what he seems to dislike, churn out more anti-JW videos.
  
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  Lloyd Evans Patreoff Pool April 2024

  by DerekMoors in

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  2. humour

  you know the drill.

  here's an updated chart and i'm using 356 because that's where he's at today.

  please let me know if there's anything you think might be added.

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  Athanasius

  Put me down for 358. However, I hope Yooters wins this time.
  
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  Alternative Military Service is Now OK

  by Sea Breeze in

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  but i wonder: how many jw's went to prison during the years that the wt did not allow them to perform community service as an alternative to military service?.

  anyone care to take a stab at the numbers?.

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  During the 1960s in the USA a number of draft age JWs joined the Pioneer ranks. This satisfied the Selective Service officials and the Pioneers were granted Clergy status and exempt from the draft. One could also marry, get wife pregnant and get the father with dependent children deferment.

  When the US abolished the draft and went to an all volunteer Military, young JW men began to avoid Pioneer service. In fact I remember an elders meeting where the CO said he hoped the government would reimpose the draft, that way there would be incentive for JW young men would join the Pioneer ranks.
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  You are so right, Elana. In fact it wouldn't surprise me if when he returns to the UK, that he would begin attending his father's Kingdom Hall and ask the elders to be reinstated.

  He could claim to be the prodigal son and the JWs would accept him back. Then he'd sponge off gullible JWs for financial assistance.
  
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  Inaccuracies regarding pagan origins

  by AEnEm in

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  easter and christmas have pagan origins.

  many of us were told that since birth.

  the evidence?

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  Athanasius

  The Watchtower writers are famous for their scholastic dishonesty.
  
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  Is there really a Bible rule against sex without marriage?

  by Halcon in

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  2. beliefs

  regarding the poster from jw headquarters, who claimed that the gb would eventually loosen the rules regarding sex.

  the question is, is there really a bible rule explicitly prohibiting sex without marriage?

  because this would be the only possible reason why loosening those rules would even come up in a discussion.

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  George, I remember the case you are referring to. I think it was in a Watchtower Study article back in the 1960s.
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  The TWO new things to come this year for J.W Org !

  by Phizzy in

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  2. medical

  while having my first strong black coffee of the day, i was thinking about what may be to come next as the org.

  rapidly goes mainstream, and this is what i came up with :.

  1) they will introduce for sunday, the after meeting fellowship, a time for just chatting but with the added bonus of coffee and snacks.

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  I think that the GB initiating a “Coffee Hour” after the Sunday Meeting is a possibility. Most Churches already provide light beverages and snacks for their parishioners after Sunday services. However, such a change for JWs would be approved only after Watchtower Legal had considered the effect of local laws and liabilities on the Organization.

  Regarding the Blood issue, isn't the Watchtower's present policy “Don't ask, don't tell?” So all the GB would have to do is tell the JWs that all medical treatments and procedures are now a conscience matter and is not the concern of JWs, including the elders, as to what medical course of action an individual chooses.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  Looks like Lloyd's most recent video has 34k views and his patreon membership is up to 364.

  While the recent doctrinal and rule changes in the JW religion may increase his income temporarily, I doubt that making anti-JW activism one's primary source of income is sustainable.
  

  As the GB abolishes their cultic rules and doctrines and makes JWism mainline, the religion will no longer be an authoritarian threat. So why would anyone pay Lloyd money to rail against doctrines and rules the JWs no longer practice?

  It looks like the GB may be the ones who will "bring down the Tower," leaving Lloyd out in the cold.
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  Lloyd claims that during February he was "battling a weirdly-lengthy cold-flu virus which has majorly impacted my productivity."

  What he really meant was that he was on a strong regimen of antibiotics to treat the STDs he got from using cheap hookers. The side effects from those drugs made him lethargic, causing him lack the energy and motivation to churn out content.

  Of course this wouldn't go down well with his patrons. Thus the "weirdly-lengthy cold-flu virus" excuse.